Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Al Hart » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:29 pm

We received an email from a SketchUp user who wanted to render a better "studio" image.

We thought this might be a good time to get some sample studio renderings, and tips from users of various SketchUp rendering packages.

For a typical studio rendering, we did not want a fancy model, but rather one which might provide some interesting reflections and shading. Lets use this model, originally uploaded by Solo in a "Render This SSS" Thread

Green Dragon.zip


Green Dragon.jpg


Here is a sample Studio Rendering Solo posted to the original thread



Put something behind it or in the sky for lighting and reflection and see what you can do.

It is OK to add rendering settings to the materials and add backgrounds, lights, and other rendering settings – but do not change the geometry of the model and I think it would be best if everyone used the same "Dragon Green" color - RGB(33,160,8). Go ahead and add reflection, or other rendering features to the material.

You could leave the dragon on the ground, float it in space, or put it on a pedestal of some sort. Whatever you think would work well for a studios rendering.

Upload your image, (max width 1200 pixels), identify the rendering package you used, some comments on what you used for rendering settings, times, background, lighting, etc. to help readers learn more about studio rendering.

Here is an example of a studio rendering from a 3D Max rendering. Note the subtle shadows, etc. but no harsh background or other geometry to take away from the idea of focusing on the model itself. Even though this is just a Dragon, pretend it is a new product you are pitching to a client, and you want to present it in the best "light" (Excuse the pun)



Render it with your favorite rendering package, post the results here, and I will place them in the Sample Renderings section of SketchUpRendering.com.

Besides seeing samples of various rendering packages, the purpose of this thread and the SketchUpRendering.com site, where we will post these images, is to show SketchUp users the value of using add-on rendering packages to improve the quality and value of SketchUp models and images for internal or client presentations.



Also, check out these similar Sample Rendering Threads if you want to see what people have done for other sample renderings.

Sample model for Rendering - Ferrari

Sample model for Rendering - Exterior at Night

Sample Model for Rendering - Interior

Sample Model for Rendering - Water
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby solo » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:33 pm

I cannot find the thread but can say this was done about 4 years ago
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Box » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:42 pm

solo wrote:I cannot find the thread but can say this was done about 4 years ago

Really?
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=23498&p=516973#p516973
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby jeff hammond » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:46 pm

a super quick/simple setup using Indigo Renderer.. the material preset 'shiny plastic' was assigned to the green then a studio .exr was used for the lighting/environment.. i could probably come up with something more dramatic (or whatever) but just showing an example of a 30second studio setup ;)
(~32 minute render time)

dragon.jpg




the .exr i used looks like this:
studio025.jpg
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby solo » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:03 pm

Box wrote:
solo wrote:I cannot find the thread but can say this was done about 4 years ago

Really?
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=23498&p=516973#p516973




I should read before posting :mrgreen:
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby micione » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:48 pm

Finishing assigned :"glass"
Lighting: HDRI (similar to the attached picture).
Image resolution: High
Rendering time: half a minute.

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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Al Hart » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:10 pm

Jeff and micione,

Thanks,

Both of these show how easy it is to create a Studio Rendering.

I have posted these two to the SketchUp Rendering site.

http://sketchuprendering.com/sample-mod ... rendering/

Hopefully we will get some more samples as well.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Al Hart » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:07 am

I rendered this one with IRender nXt. I made the Dragon translucent, and used a studio background geometry from the 3D Warehouse provided by Solo a few years ago, and the Studio rendering lighting default setting in IRender nXt. I let this rendering "cook" for about 2 hours.

Green Dragon-w-studio-1322-eng4.jpg


https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model. ... c4458c07f7

Basic Studio for rendering.jpg
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Box » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:06 am

I'm not a fan of Green....Edit; sorry I only just noticed that you wanted everyone to use the same colour.

Twilight Render, medium preset.
Default Realistic Glass material
HDRI from the Sketucation Store Studio pack.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby micione » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:11 am

Surface: "coating"
Base: "reflection"
Lighting: preset
Render time: 4 minutes

Rendering engine: Thea Presto
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby ginchius » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:25 pm

Dragon with skin

Thea Presto AO CPU
20 min.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Frederik » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:14 pm

Thea Render TR1
Render time: 4 minutes
Raw render...
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby jpalm32 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:34 pm

Box wrote:I'm not a fan of Green....

Twilight Render, medium preset.
Default Realistic Glass material
HDRI from the Sketucation Store Studio pack.


Nice. May I ask your TW settins?
Never can get SSS correct
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Box » Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:18 pm

jpalm32 wrote:Nice. May I ask your TW settins?
Never can get SSS correct


As I said, default Realistic glass(diamond) and easy preset medium.
Perhaps the trick I used was scaling a copy of the dragon to fit inside and give that a lampshade material. That adds some density to the whole thing.
You can see the difference in this one, it is the same settings without the inner lampshade. and a different colour.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby cotty » Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:58 pm

Another one with Indigo...
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Elibjr » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:14 pm

Wow I really 1ike the last two. When I get home I may join in.

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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby notareal » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:45 pm

As a side note. If jumping into "dragon" studio, one might be interested to look on Henrik Wann Jensen's iconic A dragon made of frosted glass. That inspired some years ago a Frosted Glass Challenge (Any Render Engine) (http://www.atillaakin.com/maxwell/dragonmatrix.png).
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby JonFar » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:13 pm

hi, im not very good at rendering, mainly because its not my primary focus, but i had to do this one


VRay 2.0, rendered at 1600x1200, high exterior preset with ambient occlusion

Dragon material is a glass bottle vismat, changed the RGB to 33,160,8
Dragon Balls downloaded from wharehouse and just added reflection
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby solo » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:03 pm

Studio and product rendering is a very simple task but can be a pain in the ass if you do not have the right tools.

In the past as illustrated above I used a studio setup model on which I could pose my model and that worked fine at the time however the problem with such a setup is there is no balanced lighting from behind so one could only light from sides and front or use an HDR image which again would not project from behind as there is a model of a studio blocking it.

The whole point of Prodviz is to show the item in best lighting and minimal or soft shadows it is not to set up an elaborate scene as the emphasis is on the product.

I have a 2 minute setup solution using Thea render.

What you need:

A good HDRI (here is a jpg of what I will use for this example)

C_Studio_08.jpg


Then you need another map, this time a pure white image:

white pure.png



The method here is you put the HDRI in the IBL slot (Image based lighting) and you put the pure white image in the background slot.

Now you create a ground plane and remove all materials and create a shadow catcher in Thea materials.

Done, now UV map and add material to model and render with Presto MC less than 2 minutes each.

Raw renders.

Green Dragon-Scene 2.png


Green Dragon-Scene 2a.png
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby alvis » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:59 pm

TwilightRender. 10 min with Easy 09.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby hellnbak » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:55 am

what's a render?
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby cotty » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:39 am

Some variations (without green)...
(Indigo Renderer)
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Al Hart » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:54 pm

alvis wrote:TwilightRender. 10 min with Easy 09.


Alvis,

It the image which looks like an office in the lower right of the screen shot pertinent, or only the position of the Dragon on the geometry?
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Frederik » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:16 pm

Al Hart wrote:It the image which looks like an office in the lower right of the screen shot pertinent, or only the position of the Dragon on the geometry?

The image looking like an office is - I assume - the IBL/HDRI used for this scene... ;)
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Al Hart » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:42 pm

hellnbak wrote:what's a render?


All the images in this thread with light highlights and other reflections on the dragon are created with rendering add-ons to SketchUp which create photorealistic, rendered, images from the SketchUp model.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby jeff hammond » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:03 pm

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Chia

chiadragon.png


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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby alvis » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:13 pm

Frederik wrote:
Al Hart wrote:It the image which looks like an office in the lower right of the screen shot pertinent, or only the position of the Dragon on the geometry?

The image looking like an office is - I assume - the IBL/HDRI used for this scene... ;)



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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby Sminky » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:50 am

I gave it a try with Brighter3D.
The lighting is provided by a HDR image of uffizzi museum and you can see it reflected on the mirror ball.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby david57 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:40 am

Mitsuba Renders.
Fist one: 47 minutes.
Second one: 4.5 minutes.
Third one: 10 minutes.
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Re: Model for Rendering Samples - Green Dragon

Postby jeff hammond » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:19 am

Frederik wrote:Thea Render TR1
Render time: 4 minutes
Raw render...



that metal looks awesome.
i challenge you to try one with weathered(?) copper ;)

[you know.. for the green theme.. :mrgreen: ]
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