Sample Model for Rendering - Ferrari

[Al Hart]

We received an email from a SketchUp user who liked a rendering of a Rhino Model using Brazil better than the renderings he saw of SketchUp models.

Here is the rendering he sent as an example:

Brazil Rendering.png

We have often wondered if it is the Nurbs Geometry in Rhino which makes good renderings - or just the skill of the Rhino users. So we would like to see what some SketchUp users can do with a similar model using the various rendering packages available wit SketchUp.

Lets use this model as a base:
[This 3D Warehose model has been edited since the original post was made]

Jaguar XKR-S

Jaguar XKR-S.png

Put something behind it or in the sky for reflection and see what you can do.

Render it with your favorite rendering package, post the results here, and I will place them in the Sample Renderings section of SketchUpRendering.com.

Besides seeing samples of various rendering packages, the purpose of this thread and/or the SketchUpRendering.com site, where we will post these images, is to show SketchUp users the value of using add-on rendering packages to improve the quality and value of SketchUp models and images for internal or client presentations.

It is OK to change materials, backgrounds, lights, and other rendering settings – but do not add or change other geometry to the car – unless there is something wrong with the original model.

Also, check out these similar Sample Rendering Threads if you like.

Sample model for Rendering - Exterior at Night

Sample Model for Rendering - Interior

Sample Model for Rendering - Water

[solo]

They are 100% correct, there is no way on this earth that the SU model you linked can ever compete with the Rhino version as it's crap in comparison.
Take a look at image of said model, see the segmented modeling and lack of detail like in light assembly? I do not care how good you can render, if the model is crap so will the render be.

Now if you can get hold of the "nurbs" model for us to render then I believe using Thea4SU I can compete, a great render begins with a great model, putting lipstick on a pig is still a pig with lipstick.

[Box]

a great render begins with a great model, putting lipstick on a pig is still a pig with lipstick.

I don't have any lipstick, but it's still a pretty pig.

[Al Hart]

I'll see if I can get the Rhino model exported to SKP and we'll see if it has better detail and/or someone can suggest a better model on the 3D warehouse.

[Frederik]

...and/or someone can suggest a better model on the 3D warehouse.

What about this Jaguar XKR-S sure looks pretty detailed to me...

Here's a quick render...
(IBL isn't any good, but was what I had available...)

[solo]

Again it goes down to the modeling app you use, Sketchup hates poly's, so a great model will most likely buckle SU as it will be heavy, see the one I have, it's modeled with 3DsMax and when converted to SU comes in around 30MB and tons of poly's.

This will be comparable but at what cost? so sometimes Rhino, Modo, Blender, 3dsmax are the better tools.

F612.jpg

[Carloh]

the ferrari model of the initial post is indeed not a good one...there are a ton of converted 3ds car models inside the warehouse which are more suitable for a comparison like this. not that i'm saying that sketchup cars can't look good...take a look at eliseis' work for example.

nevertheless, here's a rendering from me made with Thea from a Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 3dwarehouse model.

[Al Hart]

Lets try to agree on a model. It doesn't matter that it was originally created in SketchUp, but rather that it can be represented with SketchUp geometry and can be rendered well with one of the SketchUp add-on rendering packages.

I we can get one more vote for the Jaguar XKR-S below, lets use that.

[solo]

Why not use the one Frederick suggests?

[Al Hart]

That's the one I wanted one more vote for.

Lets use it.

Jaguar XKR-S

I am changing the name of this thread, and the link in the first post, etc.

[ely862me]

keyshot

[Carloh]

in the streets of Paris... rendered with Thea unbiased TR 1 (rendertime 25 minutes), slightly adjustet contrast and brightness in photoshop.


who else thinks this car looks like a frog who just told a joke and waits for reactions?

[micione]

Rendered with "Renditioner v3"

[solo]

Just had to give it a go.

I used Thea4SU, rendered with Presto GPU MC, CRF Nikon D7000 only HDRI lighting on a shadow catcher.

Render time 3 minutes GTX 660ti.

2012 Jaguar XKR-S.png

[Al Hart]

Thanks for the quick responses to this. I have placed the rendered images onto the SketchUp Rendering site.

I will add more as we get them. Let me know if you want to change your comment or credits.

[Krisidious]

Nice staging Solo...

[olishea]

in the streets of Paris... rendered with Thea unbiased TR 1 (rendertime 25 minutes), slightly adjustet contrast and brightness in photoshop.


who else thinks this car looks like a frog who just told a joke and waits for reactions?

That looks completely real! Well done

[xonpt]

wow, there are some reeeeeally perfect renders out here!

here is my try... still learning my way through VRay...


VRay for Sketchup, 9 minutes on my prehistoric Core2Duo machine
only color correction on PS

[Krisidious]

I'm not very familiar with it... But here is an attempt with Revizto's new built in render engine.

Render_2013.11.29_23-49-592.jpg

[Carloh]

That looks completely real! Well done

Thanks mate!

[cotty]

One with a more simple environment, rendered with Indigo Renderer...

[tadema]

Hope I'm not too late.
Xonpt that colour looks great.
John

[Al Hart]

Hope I'm not too late.
Xonpt that colour looks great.
John

Nice overall scene - nice reflection on the car

What renderer did you use? Any other comments to add to the image?

[tadema]

Sorry Al, I used V-ray
John

[xonpt]

Sorry Al, I used V-ray
John

sorry for the noob question, but im trying to learn VRay (slow process for someone used to Artlantis, lol)

how do i get softer shadows?
i used a "shadow catcher" material for the ground, and the standard sun light..
and i tryed to play arround with the 'size' and 'subdivs' of the sun light (in the environment tab), but i couldnt get softer shadows...


i suppose it can be done with dome light or HDRI, but i havnt got to that part yet, lol
is it possible with the standard sunlight?

[tadema]

Hello xonpt, Open V-ray output settings, open environment, open the Material Box and under Sunlight you can alter the sun size, bigger the sun the softer the shadows. Hope you can understand this.

John

[Mike Amos]

One of the problems I have noted when using wharehouse models is the use of textures. Some folk rename the standard textures which is fine when you only have one mode/aspect using that mat but a thorough pain when that mat is commonly used elswhere in the scene/set. Other folk will use the same mat for different parts of the same model, the jag here does both of these things. Note the glass is the same mat as the tyres which is a nightmare if your render program treats all instances the same. I doubt roadholding will be great with glass tyres. I will post a renditioner render when I am happy with it.

[xonpt]

Hello xonpt, Open V-ray output settings, open environment, open the Material Box and under Sunlight you can alter the sun size, bigger the sun the softer the shadows. Hope you can understand this.

John

thank you for the answer, but i actually did just that... and i changed the size from 1.0 to 3.0 and even 12.0, and i always got hard shadows...

maybe i've got to give it an even higher value, i will give it a try





p.s. - Mike Amos, i totally agree with you, and that's why sometimes one has to spend more time "cleaning" the model than actually rendering it.. but that's part of the "job"..

[tadema]

Hello xonpt, open a fresh SU and draw a simple base and floor....
Sun sizes 01, 10 and 20, can't understand what your doing differently.
For checking materials from a Wharehouse model try drawing a cube and paint a face with a bright colour then using Thom Thom's Replace Materials viewtopic.php?t=26013
Your able to swap a material and see whats messed up, replace or hit back button.

John

[Al Hart]

Oops - this thread has been hijacked.

Would you guys mind continuing the discussion of how to use VRay in a new thread?