Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:49 pm

This is the Hannibal 8, driven by Professor Fate (Jack Lemmon) in the 1965 Blake Edwards movie "The Great Race" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHv9aw9CN4g. The movie was a comedy about a 22,000 mile race from New York to Paris, a loose interpretation of the actual Great Race of 1908, commencing Feb 12th in New York and ending in Paris on July 18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADMfKU5-Gw.
It also starred Peter Falk as his hapless sidekick, Natalie Wood (who I have been in love with since before I was born) and Tony Curtis as the good guy. (The movie also featured the largest pie fight ever staged http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23AvbQz9Ee8)

Warner Brothers built 5 of these cars at a cost of $150,000 each (the equivalent of over $1 million today). Tracking down information as to how many survive and where they are proved to be impossible. I know that one was just recently sold at the Volo Car Museum in Volo, Illinois, for $350,000. Had I been quicker I could have ordered a DVD from them that would have included detailed video of the car from top to bottom, inside and out. I called but the car had already been sold and therefore no further DVD's were being sold. That DVD would have been invaluable to me during this project, because finding reference photos of this car has been the most difficult and frustrating task so far. The only photos available are from it's appearance in various car shows and museums over the years, and they are mostly pretty small and yield few useable details. Plus, like many movie and TV cars from that time frame many parts have been lost/damaged/replaced and/or modified over the years. I did find an obscure mention of an article about the construction of the cars in an April 1965 issue of "Rod & Custom", so I found a copy on Ebay but it wasn't much help.

Some of the "special effects" include a cannon that emerges and retracts from the bonnet, a smoke screen system that billows black smoke from a rear nozzle, and it's distinctive "nosecone" which as it turns out, while looking ominous, simply heats up (for some reason). But it's most recognizable feature was, of course, it's ability to raise the body vertically on a scissors-type mechanism (which was constantly breaking down during the making of the movie).

All hand-constructed, they were powered by a Corvair 6 cylinder engine and, variously, either a standard Powerglide transmission or a three speed manual transmission, and one even had a hydraulic transmission. All four rear wheels are powered and chain driven. The scissors mechanism (installed on three of the cars and sometimes referred to as a "lazy tong" mechanism) was designed because they foresaw a need for a car that could straddle obstructions (which makes no sense to me because there was still the frame and axles between the wheels) and cross streams. Because the Corvair engine would stall out when submerged, it raised with the body, and the wheels, steering and brakes were all powered by three powerful hydraulic pumps driven by the Corvair engine above. Thus the car was completely drivable from the raised position

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When in it's raised position it was very impressive, but I would imagine also very top-heavy and tricky to safely corner
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The interior was somewhat spartan, but the dash featured all the bells and whistles you would expect from a bad-guy vehicle (most of which were undoubtedly just for show). The windshield wiper was hand operated by the lever in the center.
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Publicity shot. Leslie Galant III (Tony Curtis) drives the good-guy-white car, the "Leslie Special". Four of these were built, and were loosely based on the 1907 Thomas Flyer that won the real race back in 1908.
(although it looks like the Hannibal 8 has four headlamps, one of them is in fact on the Leslie Special, it's a bit shorter than those on the Professor's car)
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A shot from one of the car's appearance at the Peterson Automotive Museum in L.A. Different headlamps, tail lamp, cannon, horn, top, tires, rear wheels, door decals, nosecone either replaced or painted, etc. They were never completely raised when displayed, probably due to lack of ceiling space.
I should note that I did take some liberties with the appearance of this vehicle. In the movie the car is almost completely black, there is no gold trim on the fenders or body, all the straps and belts are black, things like that. But when I did make it accurate it sort of looked like an ink blob on wheels, really ugly. Possibly if I could have rendered it it might have been acceptable, but since rendering is completely beyond my capabilities I had to settle for a "dressed-up" version.
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Another shot, different car, cannot remember where this is. Note the Blues Brothers car behind it.
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There are still things that should be done to this car, but won't be. A lot of textures to add, some textures need tweaked, or replaced. Some details missing, things like that. The umbrella sucks (didn't think it would be that difficult to model an umbrella, I was wrong). But it was fun and a learning experience, I wanted to learn something about modeling belts and straps, hoses and wires, chains.

Hope you enjoy.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Rich O Brien » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:36 pm

:shock:

I want one
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Rich O Brien » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:37 pm

Can I see wires and dash closeup?
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:38 pm

A few more shots...

There were no photos available of this area, so all of this is something I just pulled out of my....imagination :lol: As I mentioned earlier, I wanted some experience working with hoses and wires and chains, so this is what I came up with. For those of you with some knowledge in hydraulics and mechanics and such, keep in mind that I have none. I tried to make it logical to some degree, but mostly it's just thrown together.
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The umbrella somehow magically transformed from this....
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to this (never on camera of course)
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby boofredlay » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:39 pm

Very cool.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:37 am

Rich O'Brien wrote:Can I see wires and dash closeup?


I assume you meant "hidden lines" instead of "wires". Or maybe you meant closeups of the wires on the hydraulic setup. Oh well, let me know
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:44 am

:thumb:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:47 am

Well, here's a closeup of the wires, just in case ;)
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby pilou » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:12 am

Very cool vehicle! :fro:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Hieru » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:54 am

Really inspirational work!!!

I keep returning to the thread and pouring over the images - each time finding some amazing details and wondering how you pulled them off. In particular the folded umbrella has really got me scratching my head.
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Postby andybot » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:43 am

Man, that's awesome!!! I love your vehicle models, I'm impressed with your attention to details. One detail I'm very curious about - how is the steering linkage maintained when the car is scissored up? It looks like in the one display photo you have, there's a vertical shaft coming down that's possibly a steering column...

Maybe this should show up in the "retro cool" thread too!
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:02 am

Thanks for all the kind words.

Andy, the steering is hydraulic (notice one of the red hydraulic lines going forward along the frame). The "shaft" you mention seeing in one of the cars on display is actually a support, one of two, to keep the car raised during it's stint at the museum.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby sebisebman » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:55 am

Ah - i loved the movie when i was a kid.

Great Work!
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Postby numbthumb » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:10 am

What the heck... :shock:
Some wires you got there. :thumb: Could you show the oil level too? :D
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Cyberdactyl » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Looks awesome.

My, you have some hours invested there.
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Postby markpyvi » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:37 pm

hellnbak, you know you're sick!
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Postby mwm5053 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:05 pm

markpyvi wrote:hellnbak, you know you're sick!
:roflmao:

That is awesome, the decals are they textures? you gotta do a mini publication dude I would buy for sure.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby david_h » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:44 pm

One of my all time favorite movies. . .

I can hear it now. . .


Push the Button MAX!
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:44 pm

mwm5053 wrote: That is awesome, the decals are they textures? you gotta do a mini publication dude I would buy for sure.

Thanks. The decals aren't textures, they're just cut out by hand and placed about 1/8" from the doors, set to not show shadows, and then I adjusted the opacity so they would look more realistic
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markpyvi wrote:hellnbak, you know you're sick!

Yeah, I've been told that before :lol:
Hieru wrote:Really inspirational work!!!
I keep returning to the thread and pouring over the images - each time finding some amazing details and wondering how you pulled them off. In particular the folded umbrella has really got me scratching my head.

It had me scratching my head too. Would have been a lot easier probably if I could have used Artisan, but that dang plugin is still beyond me.
Pilou wrote:Very cool vehicle! :fro:

Thanks much
numbthumb wrote:What the heck... :shock:
Some wires you got there. :thumb: Could you show the oil level too? :D

Here ya go
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Cyberdactyl wrote:Looks awesome.

My, you have some hours invested there.

Nah, whole thing took about 15 minutes ;)
Boofredlay wrote:Very cool.

Glad you like it
David_H wrote:One of my all time favorite movies. . .

I can hear it now. . .


Push the Button MAX!

Yeah, I hadn't thought about this movie in years, came across a reference to it while I was researching the Munster Koach and it popped into my (feeble) mind later when I was looking for something interesting to do.
From what I've read "Push the Button, Max" became quite the catch phrase after the movie came out. One of the Hannibal's made an appearance in another movie, a real turkey called "The Charge of the Model T's" in 1977. Made me sad to see it in such a terrible movie.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby david_h » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:10 pm

Well it's an awesome model . . .and I wish I had your skill and your time to do stuff like this.

:D :thumb:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:25 pm

David_H wrote:Well it's an awesome model . . .and I wish I had your skill and your time to do stuff like this.

:D :thumb:


Awww shucks, twern't nothin ;)

Now I'm looking for something else interesting to tackle. Something that hasn't been done before. Really would like to do a couple versions of the Batmobile, but they're all over the Warehouse. Anybody have any suggestions?
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby andybot » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:34 am

weinermobile? :lol:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby tadema » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:48 am

Steve your crazy, now that really should be added to the Most impressive SketchUp modelling thread! :thumb:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby david_h » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:51 am

andybot wrote:weinermobile? :lol:


That one occurred to me as well--for me to try.. . but its always time . . .time. .. time. . ..


and plus it's kinda nasty . . . :oops:
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Postby mwm5053 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:37 am

tadema wrote:Steve your crazy, now that really should be added to the Most impressive SketchUp modelling thread! :thumb:
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I agree :thumb:
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:13 pm

tadema wrote:Steve your crazy, now that really should be added to the Most impressive SketchUp modelling thread! :thumb:
John

I appreciate the thought, John. And crazy is one of the nicer words used to describe me :D

andybot wrote:weinermobile? :lol:


Actually this got me interested, until I checked into it. The one you show is the 1952 version, and it has (IMO) the most character of any of the ten versions built over the years.
The generic lower section of the current version is butt-ugly
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Admittedly the interior of the new version would be a lot of fun
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But I have been unable to come up with a single photo of the interior of the 1952 version. It is on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI, but all of the photos of it there show that it is blocked off from anyone getting inside of it.
So I'll leave this one to you, Dave ;)
Thanks for the suggestion though, Andy
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby hellnbak » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:45 pm

Actually it's probably just as well, as I'm about to take a long break from SU to take care of some things.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby dale » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:40 pm

That is absolutely incredible modeling. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Professor Fate's "Hannibal 8"

Postby Bryan K » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:47 pm

Jeez Louiz! Wow.
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Postby hellnbak » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:10 pm

dale wrote:That is absolutely incredible modeling. Thanks for posting.

Bryan K wrote:Jeez Louiz! Wow.


Much appreciated
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