Old kitchen - WIP

Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:04 am

Just thought I'd post this render of my kitchen with the stove in place sporting its new legs - thanks to Eric, Bruce [modelhead] and Tom. Both the kitchen and stove are works in progress.

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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby boofredlay » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:05 am

Exellent, those legs came out nice :!:
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Postby tomsdesk » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:06 am

Excellent indeed...hope you share the stove model when you're ready. :`)
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Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:06 am

Thanks Eric.

Tom

I will but it will be a while, since the stove is being restored and then converted to gas ... and I'm not as slick as some on this board. ;) I just keep plodding along . . . so don't hold your breath.

I've made up a tutorial about the process I went through creating the legs - after expert tutelage from the three wizards - yourself, Eric, and Bruce. I still don't really understand why it worked. My 3D concepts only go so far.

I've sent it to Coen who will slim it down and post it.
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby modelhead » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:07 am

tomsdesk wrote:Excellent indeed...hope you share the stove model when you're ready. :`)


I like that room...what a cozy fire. and I would like to have the model to render for you. Ceramic I think. Although I would be tempted to render it as new with the polished metal etc. Thanks... Cheers!
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:07 am

I'll hold you to that Bruce. Ceramic would be quite appropriate for the baked enamel colours with lots of nickle/chrome trim or what the restorer calls 'jewellery'. Though very bright and shiny when new, it dulls over time - unless you establish a monthly polishing regime. The top is black cast iron with a slight sheen.

There is a bit of a dilemma here in that I'm trying to avoid over restoration so that surfaces retain what I term 'the patina of time' and don't look as if they are brand new. It helps keep the cozy feeling you mentioned and a reassuring sense of times past.

Thanks again for your help.
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby tomsdesk » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:08 am

Bernard, check out this thread (especially this page) if you haven't already:

http://www.sketchucation.com/community/ ... a&start=30

and you will surely hold Bruce (modelhead) to his offer...I look forward to what he and the others do with it myself!

Best, Tom.
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Postby Maggy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:09 am

I'd swap that kitchen any day for mine. Looks very nice.
Just that clock... with the pendulum straight down it looks like it's not ticking. Please hang it in any other position so we can see it swing and hear its ticking.

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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:10 am

Sorry Tom - just another 'senior moment' - one amongst many. Will edit and then check out the link.

Maggy - of course you would, that's why you have yours and I have mine. ;)

You will have to wait for me to master gif animation to share the visual manifestation of the tick-tock I hear behind me. Content yourself with knowing that the pendulum is sometimes in that position when I forget to wind it.

As I said, this is a work in progress - among other things I have to model something I can plug the mantle radio into.

I'll get there - one day.
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Postby Maggy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:10 am

Bernard, I didn't mean a real animation, just a little adaptation to reduce the static impression.
Lets compare it to something very dynamic: a football match (soccer for US). The striker swings one left back to kick the ball into the goal. Camera's clicking around him. At a certain point in his motion it's possible that his body is straight upright, with both legs straight down and possibly even both arms straight down. Would any reporter send in such a picture? Would any newspaper publish it?
Every striker has to pass this position somewhere in the swing of his kick. Just like your clock passes this position every second.
Actually lots of SU drawings have this same static impression, no wind in the trees, all cars perfectly aligned and so on.

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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:16 am

Maggy - Just put it down to my laziness.

The image I used to build the clock had the pendulum in this 'neat and tidy' position as did all the others I looked at as possibilities for the model - no doubt signs of anal retentive personalities? ;)
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby RonS » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:17 am

You know Bernard, I am getting quite a few of the 'senior moments' to. :lol:
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Postby Maggy » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:18 am

I didn't know the term anal retentive, so I looked it up in Wikipedia:
The term is often used to describe a person deemed to be overly obsessed with minor details.

Hanging a pendulum where gravity hangs it in a clock that isn't ticking does sound lazy to me, but quite the contrary of anal retentive. Perhaps my obsession with such details might be called anal retentive?

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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:21 am

Maggy

Takes one to know one! ;)

But in knowing, I have moments when, apparently like you, I must deliberately go against type and do something provocatively un-anal [if there is such a word]. Are 'creative' and 'expressive' synonyms?

Alas, editing the pendulum was not one of them.

I suspect we are not alone here! :D


Ron - It's a worry. :(
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Jackson » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:22 am

Bernard,

Beautiful work, especially in the props. Can I ask though- it looks like a straight SU render? If so I'll move this thread across to the SketchUp Gallery.

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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:23 am

Jackson - Thanks. Feel free - I thought it was an SU "render", that's why I put it here.
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby boofredlay » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:23 am

Barnard, there is a difference in the Renders/Rendering and the SketchUp within the Gallery. The SketchUp is for native SU output. The other is for renderings created by 3rd party programs like Maxwell etc...

I will go ahead and move it and leave a shadow for a bit.
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Re: Old kitchen - WIP

Postby Bernard Hagan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:24 am

Eric - I gathered that when I read Jackson's post. I was just explaining why I posted it here.
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