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Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:13 pm

Hi..

Been testing Fredo`s Animator plugin and find it very cool and useful.. Have one major issue tho.

I`v seen the tutorials and are trying to make an animation. Editing groups and components, saving start with the position saver, and entering the "Clip editor".

I make one movement, run the clip, looks nice Ease the movement and are happy.. Save the data (with the plugin save button) and exit tool.

When i go back and want to edit the clip it is all gone.. It is as I`ve never made the movement :-) The saved position is there but not the movement I`v made :-/

Any suggestion on what I`m doing wrong ??

I have SU 2018 with the latest Animator and Fredo lib :-)

Thank you..

Edit:

The Animator (.animator) file is looking good It has a lot of text in it (opend with notepad to have a look :-) )
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:00 am

Normally, the Save button in Animator also save the Sketchup file.

However, since all changes are in the undo stack (storage as attributes in the model), you may have unsaved if you used the Undo button after exiting Animator.

All data are saved in the model. A copy is done in the external .animator file at the same time, but it's really for accident. Normally, when you start Animator, it checks which of the model attributes or animator file is the most recent and prompt you if there is a difference.

Note that the model is self-sufficient as it contains all data of the animation.

I don't know exactly why you lost data, but may be related to the case I mentioned.

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:09 pm

This only happens on my workstation at work. I`v tried it at home and here it works just fine.. I recon this may be an installation issue of som sort.. I`ll try uninstall and reinstall the plugin and the LibFredo library to see if this sorts out the issue..
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:53 am

Good morning Fredo6 :-)

Well, the installation theory i had, seemed to not be correct.. I uninstalled both Animator and FredoLib and reinstalled them both with latest version..

So i start SU, save the model as i.e Animator test. I make a cube, turn it in to a group, then start Animator. After completing the animation, and when i want to go edit it, it is all gone. Like I did not save it or something. I`v added a Gif video to show the process :-)

When using animator at home on a laptop, it works just fine :-)
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:03 pm

@jonorman

Seems like there is a bug somewhere.

Could you turn on the Ruby Console and see if there are errors showing up.

Thanks

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby Charlie__V » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:23 am

jonorman wrote:Good morning Fredo6 :-)
So i start SU, save the model as i.e Animator test. I make a cube, turn it in to a group, then start Animator. After completing the animation, and when i want to go edit it, it is all gone. Like I did not save it or something. I`v added a Gif video to show the process :-)


I noticed in the .gif when you save the animation and before exit the name of the (clip?) is Film 1...see first screen grab
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After you re-start Animator the “name” is Film (new).....she second screen grab.
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I haven’t used animator for a month or more, and not by no means an expert......but is your “Film 1” perhaps available in the drop down?

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:53 am

fredo6 wrote:@jonorman

Seems like there is a bug somewhere.

Could you turn on the Ruby Console and see if there are errors showing up.

Thanks

Fredo




Seems to be runing smooth as..!??!.. Well somthing :-)
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BUGS ON ANIMATOR (WITH MacOS)

Postby paris_hvac » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:33 am

Hi there!
I've started recently to use Animator, which i think is an amazing tool, but experienced some bugs.
I'm using SU 2018, with latest version of Fredo Library and of Animator. Working on MacOS High Sierra (latest version).
The main problems i experienced occurred when trying to create a new view (camera icon): it switches the view to the top view from far out (so far that it is impossible to see the model).
It is then impossible to create an animation.
The program crashed many times as well.

I hope this helps and that you can help

Many thanks in advance
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Re: BUGS ON ANIMATOR (WITH MacOS)

Postby fredo6 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:18 pm

paris_hvac wrote:The main problems i experienced occurred when trying to create a new view (camera icon): it switches the view to the top view from far out (so far that it is impossible to see the model).
It is then impossible to create an animation.
The program crashed many times as well.

1) Could you post or PM to me the model so that I have a look. I don't have a Mac, but maybe I can help.

2) For the crashes, do you mean bugsplats with exit from Sketchup?

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:21 pm

jonorman wrote:Seems to be runing smooth as..!??!.. Well somthing :-)

Could you do the following:

1) Create you animation

2) Save it

3) Send the model skp file to me before you re-open it, so that I can inspect if the saving went OK.

Thanks

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:53 pm

Hi Fredo..

Started Sketchup, saved file, made animation, saved and exited tool and here it is :-) Thank you for your time looking in to this issue.

Edit. The ".animator" file was not allowed for uppload
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:03 pm

jonorman wrote:Hi Fredo..

Started Sketchup, saved file, made animation, saved and exited tool and here it is :-) Thank you for your time looking in to this issue.

Edit. The ".animator" file was not allowed for uppload

The model does not contain an animation. So very strange...

For the .animator file, you can change the extension to .txt. This is just a text file. Then you can attach it.

By the way,

1) When you save, could you open the Ruby Console before to see if there are error

2) Is the place where you save model on hard disk, or on a box-like place?

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:30 am

Good morning Fredo..

I`v made a new anim test... Ruby Console was running the whole time (and nothing showed up there) . I`v saved a copy as at 3 different stages.. After the transition is created and tested but before exiting tool, then after exiting tool, and one last after reopening the tool.
Also added the .Animation files. All in a .rar file attached.

I save the file on my windows desktop.. :-)
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:28 am

The Animator file is created correctly, but data are not saved to the model file.

I need to investigate.

Just one additional check. When you save the animation (blue disk button), can you check that in the Undo menu of Sketchup, you have "Animator: Save data".

Also, before exiting, could you invoke the Maintenance Dialog box and check that the "sequence 1" is displayed in the list.

Thanks

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:35 pm

Hope i have done it right, added a GIF for observation :-)
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:26 pm

jonorman wrote:Hope i have done it right, added a GIF for observation :-)

Useful. thanks.

For the Undo, I mean the Sketchup Undo in the Edit menu of Sketchup.

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:32 am

Good Morning Fredo..

Nope, the undo menu does not have any save data to undo :-) Attaced a screendump, and it is the same allwaays, no mather what I do..
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:11 am

jonorman wrote:Good Morning Fredo..

Nope, the undo menu does not have any save data to undo :-) Attaced a screendump, and it is the same allwaays, no mather what I do..

I mean Create the animation, Save it from within Animator (so blue disk turns gray) and check the Sketchup Undo label/tooltip.

By the way, could you type the folloiwng command in the Ruby Console:
Sketchup.active_model.path

This should return the file path name of the SKP or nothing.

Thanks

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:34 am

Hope I`v done it right now :-) Same result as before :?
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:52 pm

It's a little bit of a mystery!!

I think I have to send you a special version of Animator with traces to see what is going on.
Could you PM me your email address, as the rbz file is above the 2 Mb.

By the way, could you also check in Tools > Fredo6 Collection > Animator > Default_parameters.... that you have set up the auto-save.
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Thank you very much

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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:35 pm

Autosave and confirm Temp exit both checked. Will send you a PM later on..

Thank you :-)
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby sigasiempre » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:53 pm

Was this issue solved? My issue is similar. Movements and cameras I put in disappear when I re-open the file?
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby jonorman » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:35 pm

Nope, not yet... Current conclusion is my computer is "Haunted" and filled with Gremlins.. Ha ha ha ha ha :-D
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby ignaciocarreras » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:12 pm

Hi Fredo! First of all thank you for this amazing plug in.
And hi forum!

I came back to a model I was working last night and there's nothing saved in the Animator-Clip Editor, but I think I probably didn't save it as I was very sleepy.

So if the clip settings are not in the Clip Editor that means that I didn't save it?
Or there is any way to find previous clips? Hopefully it's saved somewhere in a folder in my PC?

Many thanks!
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Re: Animation lost when exiting Animation tool

Postby fredo6 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:35 pm

ignaciocarreras wrote:So if the clip settings are not in the Clip Editor that means that I didn't save it?
Or there is any way to find previous clips? Hopefully it's saved somewhere in a folder in my PC?

All Animator information is saved within the model. So, if you retrieve a previous version or the last backup save (.skb), it should be there.
This assumes however that you did save the animation at some point.
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