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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby optimaforever » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:27 pm

In the same order of idea, can you thomthom develop a quadchamfer4SU?
Ideally it would be a mix between the editability of SubD and the easiness of RoundCorner...
Roundcorner is good but it doesn't allow for editing. I have to keep a non-chamfered version in a temp layer if I need to edit it again. And SubD need manually offsetted lines to control the distance of chamfering. On complex models, it can quicky become a time-consuming burden, just to create chamfered edges, not to mention the file size and the memory footprint.

This TTQuadchamfer would be a quick 3D chamfer/fillet tool that automatically creates the needed lines offsets according to pre-entered parameters, which in return could allow easy re-editing, should the need arise. And afterward, one could tweak the fillet values edge by edge for more flexibility.

What do you think?
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby thomthom » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:05 pm

Got some visuals to illustrate expected result?
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby optimaforever » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:15 pm

thomthom wrote:Got some visuals to illustrate expected result?

Have you seen http://www.mariussilaghi.com/products/quad-chamfer ?
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby gilles » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:45 pm

Streamliner, based on Norman E. Timbs 48 buick.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby JQL » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:39 pm

optimaforever wrote:This TTQuadchamfer would be a quick 3D chamfer/fillet tool that automatically creates the needed lines offsets according to pre-entered parameters, which in return could allow easy re-editing, should the need arise. And afterward, one could tweak the fillet values edge by edge for more flexibility.

What do you think?


Actually I'm simply not using SubD, because it would be the most fun plugin I'd have, but it's not really useful for what I need right now. I would have yet another toy to have fun with and deviate my attention for what I do for a living... I must resist...

If you'd do it, it would be extremelly useful if you'd integrate it with SubD methodology and chamfer it only when subdividing, keeping UV's, allowing for creases worflow to be integrated too and, probably integrate it in the rendering workflow too.

I didn't know it yet but if SubD would be able to produce that, it would turn into the most useful toy an architect that deals with archviz needs apart from the renderers themselves.

Thanks for that feature request Optimaforever, I really hope Thomthom pulls that one off!
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby pilou » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:56 pm

@: Gilles where is the model ? ;)
Inspiration Vrooum, vrooum! :mrgreen:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby gilles » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:19 pm

pilou wrote:@: Gilles where is the model ? ;)
Inspiration Vrooum, vrooum! :mrgreen:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby Stinkie » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:07 pm

optimaforever wrote:Have you seen http://www.mariussilaghi.com/products/quad-chamfer ?


Oooh, it'd be great to have that in SU.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby optimaforever » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:20 pm

JQL wrote:If you'd do it, it would be extremelly useful if you'd integrate it with SubD methodology and chamfer it only when subdividing, keeping UV's, allowing for creases worflow to be integrated too and, probably integrate it in the rendering workflow too.

I didn't know it yet but if SubD would be able to produce that, it would turn into the most useful toy an architect that deals with archviz needs apart from the renderers themselves.

Thanks for that feature request Optimaforever, I really hope Thomthom pulls that one off!


Indeed, my next request would be that the quad chamfer only applies when rendering, a bit alla Skatter-way, with the "render only" option.

I don't know if it's in the pipeline but I guess that having the SUbD not visible when working and only visible during rendertime would be an equally useful feature. A kind of general SUbD toggle on/off in the SUbD preferences. The thing is, there is always an SUbD object on which I forget to apply the subdivision before pushing on the render button (lazy me), and having a "all subd on when rendering" toggle button would save my ass for sure :puke:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby pilou » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:02 am

@ Gilles : Thx! ;)
Model by Gilles above!

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The trick is colored first then SUbD ;)
Or there is another trick after the SUbD ?
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby optimaforever » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:21 am

very nice pilou ! :fro:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby HornOxx » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:58 am

pilou wrote:... The trick is colored first ...?

typical French - you inspire a new fashion trend !! :-P
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby thomthom » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:10 am

optimaforever wrote:I don't know if it's in the pipeline but I guess that having the SUbD not visible when working and only visible during rendertime would be an equally useful feature. A kind of general SUbD toggle on/off in the SUbD preferences. The thing is, there is always an SUbD object on which I forget to apply the subdivision before pushing on the render button (lazy me), and having a "all subd on when rendering" toggle button would save my ass for sure :puke:

I'm in contact with some render engines in exploring way to allow them to render subdivided mesh independent from what is visible in the SU viewport. :)
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby optimaforever » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:15 pm

Thomthom, you're da man :D
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby leminilab » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:55 pm

Hi, Just uploaded a few objects modeled with basically Vertex Tools, and SubD:
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model. ... be495b50db

Thanks for the planet, man (if everybody could share their files in proxy mode (1,5 to 9,5Mb in my example), we'd save a lot of energy!

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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby Stinkie » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:31 pm

thomthom wrote:I'm in contact with some render engines in exploring way to allow them to render subdivided mesh independent from what is visible in the SU viewport. :)


Now that'd be quite something. :thumb:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby Box » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:10 pm

I really do love the simplicity of modelling with the combination of QFT, VT and SubD.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby pilou » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:07 pm

Vasarely revival! :fro:
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby HornOxx » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:24 pm

... a simple beverage can and a trial with texturing
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby thomthom » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:10 pm

HornOxx wrote:... a simple beverage can and a trial with texturing

Thanks for sharing that model. This will be useful to experiment with how OpenSubdiv handle UVs.
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So how do i lace this shoe?

Postby cuttingedge » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 pm

The hardest thing about having a shoe like this is lacing it especially when youre in a hurry....Im taking my time.. yet making this in 3d is proving to be more difficult than i ever suspected.


how do ilace this shoe.jpg


im happy anyways with how the shoe is taking shape.. :)

Tried 3 methods.. but i couldnt even show it...So how do i lace this shoe?... proxy attached in case..

how do ilace this shoe-off.skp
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby ely862me » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:48 am

Why this won't subdivide ?
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby thomthom » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:56 am

ely862me wrote:Why this won't subdivide ?


It subdivided fine for me...

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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby Box » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:57 am

Works for me.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby ely862me » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:06 am

It doesn't work for me. I have sent the bug. I get one every time I try it.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby micione » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:32 am

Elisei ,
check your other plugins.
it is a conflict.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:36 am

works for me too
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby ely862me » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:44 am

I thought this was happening only with this model, but it seems it happens with all. I don't remember doing any changes later. This is a bit strange. Maybe Thomas has some hints from the error I sent his way.

Edit

Thomas, have you released any updates recently ?
When I went to the Welcome to SubD panel it said a new version is available. Then I went to the SCF pluginstore and installed SubD. Now it seems to work.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby thomthom » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:14 pm

ely862me wrote:I thought this was happening only with this model, but it seems it happens with all. I don't remember doing any changes later. This is a bit strange. Maybe Thomas has some hints from the error I sent his way.

Edit

Thomas, have you released any updates recently ?
When I went to Welcomne to SubD panel it said a new version is available. Then I went to SCF pluginstore and installed SubD. Now it seems to work.


You where running an expired beta build. Guess you didn't update after the release.
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Re: SubD examples and models

Postby ely862me » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:37 pm

Strange as it worked until today !
I believe I didn't update after the release.
Thanks, back and runnin' fine !
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