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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:48 pm

I'm trying to figure out how to best handle the situation where outlets and switches are vertically sitting on top of each other:

I'm thinking about adding an advanced parameter which allows offsetting the symbol and label a custom amount so that the symbols don't all pile up on top of each other.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:58 am

Version 1.1.2b - 12.25.2019
- Added an offset parameter (advanced options) for switches which allows the symbol and label to be offset from the wall.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:34 am

Version 1.1.3 - 01.01.2020
- Added additional (120V, 20A) outlets to the built-in outlet library.

This update includes various (20A) USB and GFCI outlets.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:49 am

For many of the electrical fixtures the designer can use their own electrical components as well as the ones included with the plugin. Here are a few hints/tips on how to do this:

1.) You need remove the spaces from file names with spaces in them. Either delete the spaces or replace them with underscores like I have done with my filenames.

2.) With your electrical light fixtures be sure that fixture base is located at the origin of the model within your component file. This actually applies to any electrical fixture. The location of the component with respect to the origin determines where it will land within the model once it is inserted by the plugin.

3.) When you insert the (ceiling mount) light fixture below make sure you select "ceiling" and not "wall" for the mounting position from the parameter list.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:08 am

Per a customer request I will probably add in two additional user definable fields for all electrical fixtures:

1.) Description
2.) Circuit

Unlike other parameters these will default to a nil value.

Are there any other parameters like these that I should add while I am updating each electrical fixture type to include these additional two parameters?
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:34 am

Version 1.1.4 - 02.16.2020
- Added optional metadata parameters for switches: description, circuit.



Once I've received some additional feedback on this new feature I will probably add the metadata parameters for all other electrical fixtures.

Further down the road I can probably also setup a tool which will allow the user to quickly visualize which switches, outlets etc... are on a particular circuit.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:34 pm

Version 1.1.5 - 04.28.2020
- Added a Global Reset button in the General tab of the Global Settings.
- Plugin files switched from .rbs to .rbe encryption.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri May 15, 2020 10:27 am

My youngest son is looking for a job this summer and with the situation being mostly under lockdown I would rather him work from home, with me.

As such I'm proposing that he help me by creating a number of models for the Electrical plugin so that I can extend it to include the British Standards (BS 1363). I have had a number of requests for other electrical standards and by far the most highly requested has been the British equivalents of our NEMA sockets and switches.

The BS 1363 (Type G) seems to be quite widespread throughout the world.

I have a few models already from a few months prior but any additional information on receptacles and switches as well as standard boxes used in the trade would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue May 19, 2020 7:16 am

First look at a low poly UK outlet:



The model is based off of the .SAT models provided on the website of MK Electric.

View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... c/K2647WHI
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue May 19, 2020 1:23 pm

Unlike the typical US outlet and/or switch the British variety come with the faceplate and the electrical component integrated into a single unit. Due to this fact and other considerations the draw and edit menus for the UK version of the plugin will be different than the North American version (NEMA).

Here are some typical outlets:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... s-Low-Poly

For those of you concerned that I am taking my attention off of the wall and truss plugins, don't be overly concerned. I am only setting up the templates so that my youngest son Edmond can be set loose to do most of the heavy lifting. I will provide oversight, as necessary, to make sure that every outlet and switch model meets my exacting standards but the bulk of my time will be spent working on the gable wall module for the next few days.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:17 am

I have been contacted by SketchUp (Educational Programs Coordinator) with regards to using SketchUp for electrical work. They are looking for some examples of recent work to share with the IBEW and ETA (electrical union) to showcase the use of SketchUp in the design and layout of electrical systems.

I am not an electrical contractor so I don't have any actual real life case studies to share or demonstrate but I am hopeful that some of the current users of the electrical plugin might have some examples they are willing to share with the rest of the electrical community.

If you would be interested in sharing some of your work as a case study please contact me at nathan@medeek.com.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:07 pm

In the global settings there will be a new parameter for choosing the electrical standard. The default standard will be NEMA (North America) with a new option for the BS (British Standard).

When you enable the British standard the usual toolbars will be the same however you will also get a third toolbar for British standard specific outlets and switches (and in the future possibly other specific items). The regular NEMA switches and outlets will still be available with the main toolbar so in case the user wants a mixed installation of NEMA and BS components. I may change this in the future depending on customer feedback.

The initial UK toolbar will be:



I wish the Union Jack displayed with a bit more clarity but it is hard to get a lot of detail when the icons are as small as they are.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:41 pm

MK Electric has a very extensive product line. There is also the MK Grid Plus line which is similar to the Leviton QuickPort system however it is primarily for switches not low voltage ports:

https://www.mkelectric.com/Documents/En ... 20Plus.pdf
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:35 pm

I've uploaded a very simple detached garage model that can be used to test out the electrical plugin:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/ ... k-Garage-1
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:45 am

Version 1.1.6 - 08.11.2020
- Updated all electrical drawing tools to be compatible with Medeek gable, shed and hip walls.
- Improved compatibility with the SketchUp Grid Tool.

Slightly off topic but I really like using the Grid Tool to help with laying out walls, foundations and even electrical components:

https://extensions.sketchup.com/extensi ... /grid-tool

My self imposed timeline for getting the UK switches and outlets released is Oct. 1, 2020. However I may be able to push that sooner if I am able to shuffle a few things.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:28 pm

After comparing my UK switch tool and the US (NEMA) switch tool it became abundantly clear that there isn't too much to do in order to get the UK switches up and running so I bit the bullet and opened another can of worms...

First look at some flush mounted MK Logic Plus switches with metal boxes:



I still need to enable the 2D symbols but now I am wondering if the symbols used by the Brits are different from what we use here in North America, knowing my luck they are probably not the same.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby juju » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:54 pm

I've probably asked this in the past, or I may be confusing myself with a query directed at another electrical extension dev in the past...

Say we would like to use our own 2D and/or 3D components, do you have a guide how to integrate this within your extension? Also, once this has been set up, I wouldn't like to overwrite it with any of your future updates, is this do-able?
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:05 am

juju wrote:I've probably asked this in the past, or I may be confusing myself with a query directed at another electrical extension dev in the past...

Say we would like to use our own 2D and/or 3D components, do you have a guide how to integrate this within your extension? Also, once this has been set up, I wouldn't like to overwrite it with any of your future updates, is this do-able?


You bring up a good point. Currently all of the component libraries are stored within the plugin folder itself so if you were to uninstall the extension and then reinstall it would remove all of custom components you placed within the library sub-folders.

I previously solved this problem for custom materials and presets with the other plugins by moving the content outside of the plugins' folders. I guess I probably should do the same thing for the electrical plugin but on a much larger scale.

Currently you can integrate your own 3D components for certain types of fixtures (not all) however I do not have a system in place yet for customizing 2D symbols. I do like the idea of being able to add your own 2D symbols, that would certainly take some work load off of me in having to create these however I need to devise an efficient system for this sort of thing.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:55 am

To be perfectly honest I didn't think this plugin would be widely used or adopted, kind of niche thing for a few electrical contractors or guys like myself who like to show a lot of details in their models. I actually got the initial idea from reading through John Brock's book and I really liked how he was placing electrical components into his models. It seemed like too much work to have to place pre-made components into the model at the right depth into the walls and also the height, hence the plugin was born, which automatically sorted out these details for you.

As with my other plugins as I have continued to develop them they have garnered more interest and I've tried to make them more flexible to accommodate more users and standards. I'm currently working to release the British Standard upgrade which will include some typical UK outlets and switches (and boxes). However, a lot more remains to be done to truly make this flexible enough for a worldwide audience.

Keep sending in the feedback, it ultimately helps me fine tune this plugin to better meet the needs of you the user.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:39 am

Surface mounted MK Logic Plus switches:

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:59 am

Version 1.1.7 - 08.13.2020
- Created the Medeek Electrical UK (British Standard) toolbar, with two additional functions/tools: Draw Switch, Draw Outlet.
- Enabled the Draw Switch (UK) tool with the following switch types (MK Logic Plus): single pole, dimmer, blank.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:56 am

Since I am using manufacturer's part numbers to specify the switch and box with the new UK module I thought it made sense to provide a thumbnail to aid in the selection process:

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 am

Version 1.1.7b - 08.13.2020
- Added preview thumbnails to the draw and edit menus of the UK switch tool.

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:36 am

After some further digging about on the internet I really only came upon three or four reference documents for UK outlet symbols. Based on those examples here are my proposed symbols:



Please provide feedback or suggestions.

I planning on using the abbreviation "SW" for switched since I am trying to keep the length of the text in the legend to a manageable length, or I could spell it out in full.

There will probably be other outlet types (ie. fused outlets or connector outlets), but this is all I have for now.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:58 pm

Version 1.1.8 - 08.15.2020
- Enabled the Draw Outlet (UK) tool with the following outlets types (MK Logic Plus): unswitched, switched, switched w/ USB, weatherproof, blank.
- Added preview thumbnails to the draw and edit menus of the UK outlet tool.
- Added UK outlet (2D) symbols to the Legend tool.






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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:51 am

Editing a UK outlet:

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby juju » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:41 am

As opposed to choosing the outlet by a code (and having the visual reference appear then), can we do the search for the outlet module by scrolling through a visual reference as well?
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:59 pm

Tutorial 4: UK Toolbar

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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:50 am

Version 1.1.9 - 09.10.2020
- Added optional metadata parameters for outlets: description, circuit.
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Re: Medeek Electrical

Postby medeek » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:47 pm

Custom Wiring Feature:

I've been getting some requests for the ability to add in wiring.

After giving this some additional thought I think I can add in a rudimentary wiring module that will allow the user to create their own wire types. The basic parameters would be:

1.) Name: NM-B_14/3, NM-B_8/3 etc...
2.) Shape: RND or RECT
3.) Dia.
4.) Width
5.) Depth
6.) Color
7.) Bend Radius

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