Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby liuwuran » Wed May 15, 2013 4:53 pm

Thanks a lot ,very useful :ecstatic:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Takashi_Komuro » Fri May 17, 2013 7:27 am

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Fri May 17, 2013 9:03 am

Takashi_Komuro wrote:What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?
Read the guidance notes on the first page of this thread, there is even a help-pdf file you can download...
There are also examples throughout the thread...
Put simply, by using JPP you can 'extrude' preselected facets that form a surface so they have a 'thickness', in ways that are not possible using the native PushPull tools...
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby pilou » Fri May 17, 2013 9:45 am

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The only automatic easy way to make thickness! :)
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby jgb » Fri May 17, 2013 3:02 pm

Takashi_Komuro wrote:What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The major advantage of JPP over SU native Push/Pull is that where SU PP only works on individual flat faces, JPP works on combined curved surfaces made up from many flat faces.

There are 3 versions of JPP, where the thickening occurs perpendicular to the selected surface, or you can set an angle to the direction of thickening. The third is a variation of SU's PP, which I never use so no comment on its functionality.

A few tips to consider before using JPP.
1) Make sure you do an "Orient Faces" before using the tool.
IMHO that should be a default function within JPP.

2) Turn ON hidden lines only if you want to do a selection of faces on a surface.
Turn OFF hidden lines if you want to do the total surface.
Alternatively, turn ON hidden lines and make the perimeter of the selected faces soft/smooth lines SOFT. That will define a surface in one selection when Hidden Lines are OFF.

3) When JPP does its thing, check the corners. Most of the lines JPP creates along the thickness are soft/smooth, and the sharp corners may not be hard, if desired. Just <Shift-CTRL-Delete> those lines to make them hard.

4) Attempting to JPP to a thickness in relation to some object in the drawing may not give you the desired thickness when done.
The better way is to JPP beyond the desired thickness, INSPECT the shape for integrity (purple lines), then type to the VCB the exact thickness dimension desired, BEFORE you double click (or <Enter> twice).
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby mra » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:21 am

This tool crashes heaps with 2013.

Repro steps:

Create square.
Group it
Go into group
Extrude it
Exit group = crash.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby thomthom » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:59 am

Do you have plugins installed? Tried disabling them temporarily to see if it might be one of them causing it?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:36 am

Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby mra » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:09 am

TIG wrote:Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...


You're a sharp man. Yes, I am apart of the V-Ray beta. Pretty sure you're right about it too.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby mra » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:26 am

Confirmed: It is V-Ray, I'll let them know.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby bulba » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:19 am

i've downloaded this plugin months ago and forgot to say thanks..
THANKS A LOT Fredo :)
been using this regularly
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby rempeyeks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:53 am

i've got error message here.
is that joint push pull dont work in sketchup 2013?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:35 am

Have you properly installed ALL of the latest versions of Fredo's tools AND LibFredo...
He upgraded his Lib and several of his tools to work with v2013...
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:52 pm

A reprise of the tool's help...

The footprint in the SketchUp Plugins Directory must be:

- jointpushpull.rb
- LibTraductor.rb
- JPP_Dir_17 folder [containing other files]

On Mac for v8 the SU plugin directory should be:

Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins

Note: once installed, you can safely delete any older JPP_Dir_xx folders

CAUTION:
NEVER rename or move files from their folders.
If you are unsure of your unzip operation, do it in a neutral folder and check that you reconstruct the right footprint.
Then transfer the folders and files to the SketchUp Plugin Directory.

Have you done all of this ?
Have you restarted SketchUp ?
Did you look in the xxxx menu ?

Since you say you have v8, then why not get the latest RBZ version from the SCF PluginStore then use the Preferences > Extensions > Install from Archive, button [v8M2 or newer] to automate it all, so you don't make mistakes...
You could even get the 'SketchUcation Plugin Store' toolset which allows you tp browse and AutoInstall hundreds of plugins with just a button-click from within SketchUp itself...
See the Resources menu items above...
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby kolya » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:49 pm

i do not get it how can i download those plugins from this site!? can somebody pls help me!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:03 am

@nikola

Most Plugin's threads have download-able files in their first post - this particular tool has extensive explanations on how to install its tools.

Please also note that many of Fredo's and thomthom's tools [and afew others] need a supporting Library downloading/installing - it is clearly explained in their postsm so remember to get that too...

However, the simplest way to get most of the Plugins available from SCF is to use the PluginStore [accessed off the Resources menu above], or why not install the Plugin Store Toolset that let's you AutoInstall them...

Please see this recent post for some more info, links etc... viewtopic.php?p=488126#p488126
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby alexgava » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:38 pm

thanks, my dear friend...

nice tool :)..

still i dont know use it, but is a nice tool :)
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Jean-Franco » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:20 pm

If you visit the first page of this post, you will find the links for download and also a PDF tutorial explaining how to use it.
Have you seen it ?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby porter159 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:53 am

Is there a version of this that works for sketchup 2013? It is one of my favorite tools that used very often, but I cant find a 2013 version or switch the file over from sketchup 8. I tried the "Shell" plugin that works in the same manor, but it doesnt work quite as easily or affectively as JPP. Please help? A version for 2013 that works just like the one for sketchup 8 would be FANTASTIC!!!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Box » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:05 pm

To answer your question in both threads, yes it does work in SU2013.
Make sure you have installed the latest version of it and libfredo.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Dave R » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:42 pm

porter159 wrote:A version for 2013 that works just like the one for sketchup 8 would be FANTASTIC!!!


The best place to start is the first post in the thread. You can download the current version there and as Box wrote, get the current version of LibFredo6, too. Better yet, install the Sketchucation Plugin Store tool and auto install Joint Push/Pull.

If you are using SU 2013, please update your profile. It'll help in the future when you need help.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby nicmask » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:49 am

Thanks!! :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby cotty » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:22 pm

I would love a fuction which rounds corners while push pulling like in this video... ;)
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Dave R » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:52 pm

Oh boy! That's cool! :ecstatic:
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Re: [Obsolete] Joint Push Pull - v2.1a - 27 Nov 13

Postby huyvuvn » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:54 am

Hello,

I update this plugin today but I prefer the way of old way to use: click , and move mouse , and click (or typing measurement). The new way is so inconvinent : click and drag (hold the mouse button).
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Re: [Obsolete] Joint Push Pull - v2.1a - 27 Nov 13

Postby Box » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:31 pm

Click drag release type.
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Re: [Obsolete] Joint Push Pull - v2.1a - 27 Nov 13

Postby fredo6 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:03 pm

huyvuvn wrote:Hello,

I update this plugin today but I prefer the way of old way to use: click , and move mouse , and click (or typing measurement). The new way is so inconvinent : click and drag (hold the mouse button).

If you long-click and then release, you can then drag freely (i.e. with mouse button up).

Also, you can click to select faces. When you have selected the last face you wish to include, click again and release and you are in free dragging mode.

Finally,
- you can type an offset value in the VCB at any time
- once a push pull is done, you can also type an offset value in the VCB or change parameters (ex: Thicken vs. pull)

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Re: [Obsolete] Joint Push Pull - v2.1a - 27 Nov 13

Postby dimasaga » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:11 am

just awesome.
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Re: [Obsolete] Joint Push Pull - v2.1a - 27 Nov 13

Postby ramces7 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:45 am

gracias
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Re: Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 1

Postby fredo6 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:50 pm

NEW RELEASE: JointPushPull Classic - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

This is a resurrection of the OLD version of the plugin.

Although the plugin is obsolete now, this old version is published on the Sketchucation PluginStore under the name JointPushPull Classic.

IMPORTANT: This version can co-exist with the NEW version JointPushPull Interactive (v3.x).

In case you had the old JoinPushPull already installed on your computer, it is advised to remove:
- the folder JPP_Dir_21
- the file jointpushpull.rb
- the file LibTraductor.rb

This old version is not interactive, but maybe more intuitive:
  • You have to pre-select the faces before launching it
  • PushPull is shown interactive with a wireframe as you drag the mouse
  • You need to double-click to generate the geometry
  • Only Joint, Normal and Vector modes are supported

See main post of this thread for Download.

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