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[Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby pep75 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:11 am

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby niks » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:29 pm

just wanted to say THANK YOU :knockout:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby BBLV » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:58 pm

Will this plugin allow me to perform a 1/2" roundover on perpendicular intersecting edges?

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby mitcorb » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:08 pm

Hi, BBLV:
You will want to try Fredo's Round Corners, which will do that, plus chamfer, plus radiused corner and edges. Joint PushPull is a multiface simultaneous extrusion tool.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby rock1 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:42 pm

using this plugin when i push pull a curved surface i have to manually delete the original surface that was push pulled. is there any way that this plugin jointpushpulls just like a normal push. and not like a ctrl+pull that makes a new face? For example i just want this yellow extrusion to be a part of the whole solid.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:00 pm

With face and tool selected...

Press TAB to open dialogue box

Choose Finishing Options

Pick option
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby rock1 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:07 pm

Rich O'Brien wrote:With face and tool selected...

Press TAB to open dialogue box

Choose Finishing Options

Pick option



I chose thickening, then erase original faces, then keep original faces. All the options are giving the same results with the lines :?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Dave R » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:50 pm

What is your question? Your image doesn't show anything useful as far as a problem is concerned.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:23 pm

It's not a telepathic tool - just erase lines and faces that YOU don't want!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby fredo6 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:16 pm

rock1 wrote:using this plugin when i push pull a curved surface i have to manually delete the original surface that was push pulled. is there any way that this plugin jointpushpulls just like a normal push. and not like a ctrl+pull that makes a new face? For example i just want this yellow extrusion to be a part of the whole solid.

yes it works like a Ctrl+pull.
Actually, doing like the native push pull is much more complex for:
- creating holes
- merging the surfaces after push pull
Note however that in most cases, JPP is used for complex surfaces where the standrad push pull would not be effective. So the continuity of surface won't really happen.

I suggest you simply erase the unwanted lines.

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby rock1 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:16 am

Fredo6 wrote:Note however that in most cases, JPP is used for complex surfaces where the standrad push pull would not be effective. So the continuity of surface won't really happen.

I suggest you simply erase the unwanted lines.

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In the case shown above is it possible that the pulling is like a normal pull? My shape isn't complex enough :lol:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby massimo » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:25 am

In the case shown above is it possible that the pulling is like a normal pull?

If I understood well can't you just use the "vector pushpull"? Anyway here you have the behaviour of the three tools.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby thomthom » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:46 am

Feature request: Option to disable the Context Menu.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:58 am

thomthom wrote:Feature request: Option to disable the Context Menu.

+1 :thumb:
[I have already tweaked my copy so that there's no context-menu, as there are already too many things clogging mine up!]
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby thomthom » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:11 am

Yea - I use to tweak it myself. But for each update I need to do it all over again.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby paihwai » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:45 am

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby gtalarico » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:19 pm

I keep getting an error when trying to extrude a few curved letters...

"General Error: cannot complete the transformation"

Can someone give it try it a try and see if maybe it is something on my end?

Steps to reproduce:
1. Open groud
2. Select All.
3.Click on JPP (J)
[ Erase Original, border on all, make group, 30 deg]
4.Click on edge, pull, type 2", Enter
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby driven » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:44 pm

try booleenhelper.rb or scale X 1000 enter 2000" and it works here

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Dave R » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:10 am

Interesting. I could do one letter at a time at the current size. I selected about half of them and tried it and got a Bug Splat. :(

I tried doing limited groups of letters. The center row went fine as did the first two thirds of the top row. When I tried to do the last batch of letters in the top row, Splat!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:18 am

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby TIG » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:19 am

At original size it Bugsplats big time! [probably a 'tiny facets issue' on the small curved edges in the R - but why not the P or & ?]
But Scale x100 and then JPP 200" [on the whole thing at once], then Scale back down x0.01m to get this good/swift outcome
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby gtalarico » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:55 am

Scaling helped. Thanks! ;)
Never thought it make a difference... is because SU doesn't like expressions with number like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000002003 ? :roll:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby ayan13 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:07 am

great plugins ! I use it a lot! Thank you !!!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby jgb » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:36 pm

I just got that "transformation" error as well. :o
While the attached SKP is documented, here's what happened.

There are 2 errors depicted in the attached model.

1 - I tried to thicken (using JPP preset at 90 deg) the housing by .1 inch. Error.
I read this thread and scaled up 10X, same result.
If I do the hub and flanges separately, it works, but there is a mess to clean up.

2 - When I thicken any pair (or more) faces that are at an angle to each other, and any face has a hole in it, the hole thickens at some median angle, not perpendicular to its face. The circle on the thickened face is also distorted into an oval/ellipse.

There is one other transformation error I've noticed as well, but seems to happen in specific repeatable cases where the transformation logic is simply stumped for a good solution.
Ya kant code for every case.... bin-der dundat. :lol: (Well respected Indian explorer)
I'll post a separate model of that problem if wanted.

So now in those cases I know where to look and do a quick and simple fix.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby helios » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:43 pm

My apologies if this was answered before, but is it possible to use this plugin to uniformly add thickness to a cylinder-like object? I created it by pulling a circle (and then scaling it at several points) and now would like to add some thickness to the currently hollow object, as it is going to be 3D printed. I am, in essence, trying to pull all the outside surfaces at a perpendicular angles.

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby jgb » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:34 pm

Yes. Use the Joint Push/Pull (not the Vector). Select the surface of the cylinder and using the JPP tool, click on any face in the selection. It will outline in red. Pull it up as thick as you want, or more accurately, pull up a short distance and type the thickness to the Measurements box. Press <Enter> to get a preview, then <enter> again to complete the thickening.

Depending on the defaults you have for JPP, it may or may not form a group of the thickened section.
You can explode the group if you want.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby mitcorb » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:35 am

@helios: Not to disparage such a fine tool as Joint Push/Pull, but a possible alternative is Pipe Along Path. Slightly different methodology, but similar result.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby jgb » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:21 pm

mitcorb wrote:@helios: Not to disparage such a fine tool as Joint Push/Pull, but a possible alternative is Pipe Along Path. Slightly different methodology, but similar result.


Yes, but PAP is not a tool for this problem. I use PAP a lot and its main advantage is making a tube or pipe along an arbitrary path.

There are a few other solutions available to thicken the surface of a cylinder, or any shape, either in a straight line or a path. Follow-me is a so-so useful tool for a non-linear path. Making a circle with both inner and outer diameters then extruding the outer ring is probably best, but linear paths only.

However, JPP is the only tool I know of that will equally thicken all surfaces, linear or not, and even bent/wavy surfaces, which was the case indicated by @helios. Think of an hour-glass. :!:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby helios » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:38 am

Thank you for the quick replies! It looks like this plugin is what I am after.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v2.0b - 17 Jul 11

Postby ar_max » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:29 am

Thank you very much.
Used to feel very good.
Sorry.
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