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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby pmolsen » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:42 am

Any chance of a new option to thicken a wall on both sides and delete the original wall in one step please?

Would allow for example tracing the centreline of a complex wall from Google Earth, (eg. the walls of a house) then thickening it in one step.

At present it is difficult to achieve. You have to thicken it in one direction by half, then thicken it the other way by the same amount. Problem is when you do the second step it leaves the original faces there, or at least the outlines, even if you specify delete original faces, meaning you wind up with a line down the centreline of the wall top and bottom which you then have to delete. For a long complex wall that can be painful.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby pmolsen » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:32 am

Another request please. An option to say borders on external faces EXCEPT THE BOTTOM FACE. When thickening a wall for example, a face on the bottom is often not wanted since it will be sitting flat on the Google Earth surface.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby thomthom » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:26 pm

pmolsen wrote:Another request please. An option to say borders on external faces EXCEPT THE BOTTOM FACE. When thickening a wall for example, a face on the bottom is often not wanted since it will be sitting flat on the Google Earth surface.

Just don't select the bottom face.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby mitcorb » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:29 pm

Regarding your issue with Joint PushPull not staying orthogonal, Use either VectorPushPull or NormalPushPull as other options. You can predefine the path the PushPull will follow with a line segment or by example with a nearby line already in the model.

That is, if I understood your problem.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby pmolsen » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:11 pm

thomthom wrote:Just don't select the bottom face.

I do not know what you mean. I do not select the bottom face. I select the single vertical faces and push-pull them one direction. Faces get created all round and top and bottom. Without deselecting the selected faces I then push-pull them in the opposite direction. There is no way of not creating the bottom faces.

But the problem is the outlines of the original faces remain on the top and bottom, along with numerous other lines generated by the push-pull. How do I prevent them?

One thing I tried was pulling the faces in one direction with "Delete original faces" on and "No Borders". I then used the Cleanup plugin to delete all the orphaned edge lines from the original faces. I then reselected all the faces and tried to pull them in the opposite direction using Thickening and Borders on Outer Faces Only. It does not work.

When you pull the wall in one direction using thickening, the original faces stay selected. If you then pull them in the other direction without deselecting them, they all move in the correct direction.

If you do the first push-pull with no borders and delete original faces they do not stay selected. After you do the cleanup, you reselect them and try to pull them in the other direction but it does not work properly. Some of them pull the correct direction. Others pull the opposite way (the same direction as the first push-pull operation) meaning those parts of the wall end up offset from where they should be.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby yokaxi » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:22 pm

thanks
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby hero719 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:45 pm

:enlight: :thumb: thk u sure!! i'm beginner.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby Napper » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:56 am

I've been trying to extrude a wasching bowl by 12mm. The JPP crashes on me every time I do this no matter whether I try it on my XP machine at work or my Mac at home. Is this a bug, or too many faces?

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby TIG » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:58 am

Napper

It's an awkward shape to JPP...
I can't get a good result either :?
Here's an alternative method...
As it's a solid you can use Jim Foltz's 'shell' @12mm, then temporarily hide the top of the original outer-shell, PushPull the top of the new solid inner-shell up ~50mm so it will pierce the outer-shell's top, intersect both groups' geometry together, and then erase the unwanted parts in them, explode the two groups together and re-group as one, smooth it... :D
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WHB_Test2[TIGd].skp
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby Napper » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:02 am

Hi TIG,

this worked quite well, actually! I had to redo it, as I had given you the inner shell and needed an outer shell but that was good practice, actually... :) And along the way I got a new plugin, I had not been aware of as of yet. So, what I wanted to say is: THANK YOU!!! :)

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.5 - 02 Sep 10

Postby JasonDoggart » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:01 pm

Hi - thanks for all your hard work! This is such a useful, well designed tool!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby fredo6 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:02 pm

NEW RELEASE
version 1.6 - 22 Apr 11: bug fix - better respect of offset distance in case where the surface is composed of faces with sharp angles.

See main post for download.

Fredo

[Edit: I fixed the link to the download thread. TIG...]
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby SketchUpNoobie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:19 pm

Fredo6 wrote:NEW RELEASEbug fix - better respect of offset distance in case where the surface is composed of faces with sharp angles.

This will be great! Thanks! :D Have a cookie. ;) And...er...a beer. :? Great combination. :puke:
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby jeff hammond » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:31 pm

Fredo6 wrote: bug fix - better respect of offset distance in case where the surface is composed of faces with sharp angles.


nice!
works very well on my test case (which previously failed with v1.5).
thanks for the update!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby jeff hammond » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:29 pm

hey fredo

i've come across an instance where v1.6 is freezing sketchup and 1.5 handles it just fine.. i'm not sure if the problem is in something i'm doing wrong, something mac specific, or what.

i'll attach the .skp (v8).. the two faces i'm having problems with are the ones painted orange.
thanks

[edit -- removed file]

[and maybe someone else can try this with jpp v1.6 on windows (or mac to see if it's repeatable for them as well)]
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby dedmin » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:34 pm

SketchUp 8, Win7 32 - freezing too.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby driven » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:16 pm

audit.txt


Hi Fredo,

Jeff's file fails on 10.5.8 as well, I'll attach the txt file

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.6 - 22 Apr 11

Postby jeff hammond » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:47 pm

cool, thanks for testing fellas.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.7a - 25 Apr 11

Postby fredo6 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:45 am

NEW RELEASE
version 1.7a - 25 Apr 11: Fix a major bug of v1.6 which was causing a freeze of Sketchup in some situations.

If you installed v1.6, It is strongly recommended to move to JPP 1.7

See main post for download.

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.7a - 25 Apr 11

Postby driven » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:53 pm

hi Fredo,

works on Jeff's skp on 10.5.8 now...

cheers

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.7a - 25 Apr 11

Postby jeff hammond » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:55 pm

works here now too.
thank you
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.7a - 25 Apr 11

Postby baiduaiya » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:26 am

:berserk: :berserk: :berserk: thank you very much
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.7a - 25 Apr 11

Postby Gaieus » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:32 am

Fredo6 wrote:[IMPORTANT] Version 1.6 has a big bug, causing a freeze of Sketchup in some situations. If you installed it, please move to JPP v1.7, which fixes the problem.

Indeed, I have just had to update JPP as I had freezing with a model. Many-many thanks, Fredo, for this excellent tool and the constant upgrades!
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby fredo6 » Sun May 01, 2011 8:56 pm

NEW RELEASE
version 1.8a - 01 May 11: Better respect the offset distance in case where the surface is composed of faces with sharp angles. In V1.8, this works also when there is an imposed plane set by Ctrl-Arrow.

See main post for download.

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby thomthom » Sun May 01, 2011 10:41 pm

Fredo6 wrote:NEW RELEASE
version 1.8a - 01 May 11: Better respect the offset distance in case where the surface is composed of faces with sharp angles. In V1.8, this works also when there is an imposed plane set by Ctrl-Arrow.

See main post for download.

Fredo

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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby Ben Ritter » Sun May 01, 2011 11:56 pm

Fredo6, thank you.
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby thomthom » Mon May 02, 2011 2:24 pm

The JPP_Dir_17 folder is required?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby TIG » Mon May 02, 2011 3:06 pm

thomthom wrote:The JPP_Dir_17 folder is required?

I think not - as it contains nothing that's not already in the new 18 version ??
V18 works OK for me without v17... :?
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby thomthom » Mon May 02, 2011 3:18 pm

I got confused because the zip file contained the 1.7 files as well as the 1.8...
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Re: [Plugin] Joint Push Pull - v1.8a - 01 May 11

Postby fredo6 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:37 pm

thomthom wrote:I got confused because the zip file contained the 1.7 files as well as the 1.8...

Tom,

Are you sure? Which unzip program do you use?

It is true that I took a copy of the 1.7 zip file, emptied it, and then insert the 1.8 files. With Winzip, there is no problem. But it may not be true with other unzip utilities.

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