[Plugin] Multiple Component Edit Warning

[Rich O Brien]

Basically, yes.

Currently vendors can sell direct here

http://sketchucation.com/shop/extensions

These are handled by the sellers PayPal accounts not us.

But for the PluginStore we can use the API to send us an IPN to let us know a purchase was made to your account. We can then change the BUY button to a DOWNLOAD button.

There are other things we need to talk to vendors about because they all use different licensing systems, stores etc....

It is something we need to all agree on and move forward with it.

[ashscott]

A video to explain the functionality has been added up top.

Who can share the best/worst/most shocking story about accidentally editing components prior to using this plugin?

[ashscott]

But for the PluginStore we can use the API to send us an IPN to let us know a purchase was made to your account. We can then change the BUY button to a DOWNLOAD butto

Thanks for the explanation Rich

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) money is a big motivator. Making it easier for developers to get paid will encourage developers to "push the envelope" even more which will push SketchUp and the whole community forward.

So, whos going to build the comprehensive Finite Element Analysis plugin?

[ashscott]

Your idea is fantastic!

but it doesnt work with V7 :'(

I was so excited to use it as well.

Hey sorry, I put you wrong earlier. The plugin hasn't been tested in V7 and there may be some issues there - my mistake.

[Rich O Brien]

@ashscott

http://sketchucation.com/resources/plug ... lag_v2.2.1

also to edit this plugin...

http://sketchucation.com/my-plugins/

Or when on the homepage, sketchucation.com, you should see Dev Tools in the header.

There's also this...

viewtopic.php?f=382&t=52516

[ashscott]

Cool, thanks for that

[ashscott]

This is probably a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyway for interests sake:

I got Dan to do some more tweaking and added the following features that you people suggested:

1) Have the flag turn back off as you exit components that you have been editing including nested components.

2) reverse iterating the edit path (nesting) array, and multiplying the lower instance counts by the next level up - if that will return an accurate count of the components being edited.

3) Make the zoom out function when the flag is clicked. Must be reversible so that when clicked a second time the user will be taken back to the close up view of the component they were originally editing (you simply click on the body of the webdialog to see all components being edited and click it again to go back to where you were).

I've paid to have this plugin developed and I wondered about charging a small price for this advanced version. Funds would go towards furthering the plugin. However, we all know of the "Penny Gap" issue and charging for this plugin could mean no-one uses it and it simply fades into obscurity (something I definitely DONT want to happen).....

What are people's thoughts? Is the penny gap too big an obstacle to successfully keep plugins like this available?

Or maybe I should just stop working so much and learn to code so I don't have to pay others to do it for me??

[jiminy-billy-bob]

How about crowdfunding ?
"We need $XX for these functions"

[monmonred]

hello!

i suggest these 2 things:

-make the notification become just a text that goes above the sketchup workspace at the lower-left corner (or probably make it have options for the location). the text doesn't not have to have its own window and just a floating text like how the "two point perspective" label appears on the screen when you go to 2-pt-persp view. this is a very useful plugin and it will help a lot if it appears as if it is a native option in sketchup.
-the notification auto-closes/disappears when you leave a component. and make it so that you do not have to close it yourself, and that you do not have to leave the whole 10-level grouping that your edited component is in just to make the notification disappear automatically.

thanks for being awesome and for this awesome plugin!

[ashscott]

@monmonred

Your second suggestion has been done in the update I refer to above.

In terms of the notification position and style - you can move the webdialog to wherever you please and it will appear in the same place next time. The webdialog also serves as a button in the latest revision in that clicking it zooms the camera out to show all components being edited.

[ashscott]

So.....no one is willing to fork out for this plugin?

[monmonred]

thanks!

i hope someone helps in this plugin's development. i wish i am that knowledgeable in scripting/programming. :l

[JQL]

So.....no one is willing to fork out for this plugin?

Well Ashcott, I forked this thread to another one and I would love to have your contribution:

viewtopic.php?f=323&t=54843

Thanks and best regards,

JQL

[ashscott]

I think that the discussion about reimbursing plugin developers for work done is fundamental to pushing SU forward as a community - I highly recommend that people consider the thread that JQL just linked to

[Dan Rathbun]

In terms of the notification position and style - you can move the webdialog to wherever you please and it will appear in the same place next time. The webdialog also serves as a button in the latest revision in that clicking it zooms the camera out to show all components being edited.

Also.. if you know CSS, you can COPY the "user.css" file, up into the EditFlag directory (one level,) .. and then modify it to change color, font, text size, etc.

The WebDialog HTML will load the "user.css" file IF (and only if,) it is in the same directory as the HTML file. (If it is not, then the inline StyleSheet will be used unchanged.

There are also 2 variables that can be changed in the "EditFlag_loader.rb" file:

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    ### Module Variables
    #
    @@topmenu = "Edit" # change to "Plugins" if desired
    @@remind  = true   # change to false for no reminders


[Dan Rathbun]

-make the notification become just a text that goes above the sketchup workspace at the lower-left corner (or probably make it have options for the location).

I tried using a view-based model note in the initial version 1.
No one liked it because it modified every model ... even model's you only wished to view, and not change.

...the text doesn't not have to have its own window ...

It does,... so that users can size it and move it around.

The API does NOT have cross-platfrom features that allow us to create borderless and/or captionless windows. I could do it on only Microsoft platforms.. but how would a user move it, or size it?

[ashscott]

Hi all, a really cool update to the plugin -

Now, when you receive the notification you can double click the webdialog that appears and the camera view will zoom out to show all instances that you are currently editing. Double click again and it will zoom back to where you were.

Based on your suggestions.

Cool huh?

[Dan Rathbun]

Well actually it is a single-click (the second click is ignored.) Helps prevent "a zoom out and back in again so fast ya' head spun"

[JQL]

Hi, I hadn't noticed this new version of the plugin. It's working very nicely... Thanks for implementing that zoom out feature. It's great!

[ashscott]

yeah I like it too

[Dan Rathbun]

Yes we fixed these issues you reported, earlier:

When working on nested components, there are two things happening that I think could be revised.

1 - The flag doesn't go off as I dig inside components nested inside other components. One has to turn them off manually.
2 - The value showed does not reflect how many components really exist in the model if there are components inside other components.

[JQL]

Yes I've noticed that too! It's very handy. I also notice that if you have a group within a component, it says you're inside a group too. What more could one need from context management plugins...

[ashscott]

Hi all, Dan made some quick modifications and upgraded the plugin to version 2.4.0

Bug fixed so that multiple edit warnings do not appear on top of each other

This allows better compatibility with the latest version of SU

Also, I can't understand why this plugin isn't more popular, we (people I work with daily) use it on a daily basis and it has sped up our workflow immensely.....should I name it something more descriptive??

[JQL]

Yup, You have a name for this thread that is different from the plugin name and the the plugin's name isn't either descriptive or compelling.

My suggestion:

- ACHTUNG BABY Plugin!
- DANGER! DANGER!
- This city ain't big enought for both of us components!

Or simply:
- Editing Multiple Components Warning

[Dan Rathbun]

For some reason the PluginStore still has the old v2.2.1 ?

Oh.. and only the first post should have the plugin package. (There is still a post above with an old version.)

[ashscott]

Every time I try to add the new plugin (V2.4.0) to the plugin store, there seems to be a timeout and nothing changes....

[TIG]

Every time I try to add the new plugin (V2.4.0) to the plugin store, there seems to be a timeout and nothing changes....

I have updated the entry to v2.4.0 for you...
Worked fine for me...
I don't know what went wrong.
Can you fill in the other items in your plugin's page tabs - like release notes and overview...
Its link-name included a version-ref...
The very first RBZ uploaded should reflect the link-name desired - but after that it is used whatever the RBZ is then called...
It can be edited in the SCF data-base ,but the various files need adding back in...
It's fixed now anyway, as the files needed updating anyway...
http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pl ... s_EditFlag

[ashscott]

Thanks TIG - changes made

any recommendations on the plugin? Do you use it yourself?

[unearthed]

Thanks for this Ash - A neat plugin - instant satisfaction ! no loading, or switching on toolbars, it simply works .

I wouldn't mind paying something for this plugin - it sure will save some time (and time really is money) - with an (overly complex) file, I recently changed all my broadleaf to fluoro green, when I thought I made the one I was working on unique .

[Dan Rathbun]

@Ash, thanks for renaming the topic thread.

It should make more sense to persons browsing the Plugins Forum list.