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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:31 pm

Pilou wrote:For me it's not inside the V6 Plugins folder that avoid Components to work! :shock: Maybe in Resource or other folders :?:
No problem because all works fine in V 7 (disable Sketchyphysics) ;) or with groups inside V6 ;)

I think it's no good if it is necessary to disable Sketchyphysics :( I guess I need to find out how to coexist together with Sketchyphysics, since it is known as must have one (I don't have it personally, but I'm sure a lot of people do...)
BTW, Pilou, great colorful sample :thumb: It inspired me to make LSS Matrix 'color aware' in future versions and process colors of replicated groups as well as transformations. I mean to make result groups colors as gradient between source group and copy group. But it will work only if the whole group has one single color, I guess... But it has to be fun too :)

blajnov wrote:Разобрался, преобразовал в блокноте два файла в кодировку UTF-8
lss_matrix.html
lss_matrix_mini.html

Спасибо :thumb: Архивный файл в исходном посте я заменил.

guanjin wrote:We look forward to the LSS update, thank you for your selfless dedication!

:) The next in line is LSS Toolbar. It was waiting too long and I believe it's time to reanimate it...
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby pep75 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:47 pm

Waaawoooh!!!!!!!! :berserk:
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby EscapeArtist » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:55 am

What a cool tool. Thank you for sharing and your hard work!
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:57 am

I mean to make result groups colors as gradient between source group and copy group.

You can yet use Color by Z, Color by Slope, Random Painter by Chris fullmer
And also ThruPaint by Fredo6 ;)

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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:01 pm

Pilou wrote:You can yet use Color by Z, Color by Slope, Random Painter by Chris fullmer
And also ThruPaint by Fredo6 ;)

Whoa! :shock: That's crazy cool :thumb:
Looks like it is better for me to focus on 'LSS Toolbar' update instead of bothering on colors handling within 'LSS Matrix' :) since there are ready-made yet powerful tools for color processing by talented plugins authors :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:56 pm

It's not exactly the same than a real gradiant between the start and end ;)
Only if objects are on a vertical straigth line !

So you can make your own code gradient between object ;)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby irwanwr » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:50 pm

kirill, i am looking forward for your update on lss toolbar ;)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Sat May 12, 2012 8:00 pm

irwanwr wrote:kirill, i am looking forward for your update on lss toolbar ;)

Update of LSS Toolbar is in progress now (I'm not sure about the fact, that LSS Toolbar will be highly demanded in the nearest future, since Google sold SU and its future is a bit uncertain now, I think).
Anyway here is demo video of LSS Toolbar current development stage. It shows '2 faces + path...' tool processing.


I decided to use github for version control. It is possible to download zip archive of current stage there: http://www.github.com/lssoft/lss_toolbar
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Sat May 12, 2012 9:25 pm

About the LssMatrix
Does it possible to have a Cylinder at the start, and the same cylinder at the end but with only Top face scaled?
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby guanjin » Sun May 13, 2012 4:15 am

Thank LSS hard work, adjustable preview, simply great, But oh have not thoroughly understand. :D Look forward to your updates, thank you!

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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Oxer » Sun May 13, 2012 4:33 pm

Hi kirill!
The first thanks for this great plugin, i have made the translation to spanish, i have created a new lss_toolbar.strings file with all spanish phrases and words and i have translated the html files, but if you want that the translation works you change the line 18 in the lss_toolbar_ext.rb file:
LanguageHandler.new("lsstlbr.strings")--> LanguageHandler.new("lss_toolbar.strings")
Is it possible translate the options of this window?:

Propierties window.png


Other thing, it's important when you save the files (.rb, .html), save them with Unicode (UTF-8 with BOM) format so there will aren't problems with the signs of accentuation in the translations.
I work on Mac (OSX 10.6.8) generally and the plugin doesn't work, it appears the toolbar, the "2 Faces + Path" and "Properties" windows but the Pick icons doesn't work.
I don't know if others Mac users have the same problem, please inform.
Thanks again kirill!! :thumb:

LSS Toolbar-b4eb4be-ES.zip


EDIT: Excuse me, i'm talking about LSS Toolbar. :oops:
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 pm

Pilou wrote:About the LssMatrix
Does it possible to have a Cylinder at the start, and the same cylinder at the end but with only Top face scaled?

Looks like you're asking me to examine contents of each group while making copies :shock:
OK, challenge accepted :)
Actually it is a step towards the realization of one of my dreams: to code a plugin, that performs morphing between selected geometry groups :geek: .

Oxer wrote:Hi kirill!
The first thanks for this great plugin, i have made the translation to spanish, i have created a new lss_toolbar.strings file with all spanish phrases and words and i have translated the html files, but if you want that the translation works you change the line 18 in the lss_toolbar_ext.rb file:
LanguageHandler.new("lsstlbr.strings")--> LanguageHandler.new("lss_toolbar.strings")

You see the currently available version is what you can call 'pre-alpha' (pre-alpha refers to all activities performed during the software project prior to testing) so it is not even 'beta-version'. I published link to it just to inform, that LSS Toolbar project is still alive :) it was just an answer on this post:
irwanwr wrote:kirill, i am looking forward for your update on lss toolbar

I'm going to add all tools, perform tests and then publish LSS Toolbar in new forum thread. Anyway all strings, which present in lsstlbr.strings, will stay in final version so it will be possible to copy-paste them into resource files of final version.
Oxer wrote:Is it possible translate the options of this window?:

Current version shows raw internal attribute names of selected entity, so it is not possible to translate them yet... You may try to take a look at component instances attributes for example 'Susan' component instance (just for fun, because editing of them has no effect). The final version will have a kind of dictionary of name aliases for all attribute names, that LSS Toolbar uses, so it will be possible to translate elements of this dictionary.
And normally the more generic way to apply localization is to place localized resource files into local folder without renaming file names (for example into 'ru-RU' folder for Russian language). LanguageHandler has to find them in local language folder.
Oxer, thanks for informing about UTF-8 formatting :thumb: I'll fix it.
Oxer wrote:I work on Mac (OSX 10.6.8) generally and the plugin doesn't work, it appears the toolbar, the "2 Faces + Path" and "Properties" windows but the Pick icons doesn't work.

I didn't adapted web-dialogs for Safari, so most probably they will not work properly on mac :( I'm not sure that I'll fix this problem, since I don't have mac :cry:

guanjin wrote:Thank LSS hard work, adjustable preview, simply great, But oh have not thoroughly understand.

The animation, that you attached, shows that path curve is the same circle that is boundary of First face. I think it explains all ;)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby guanjin » Sun May 13, 2012 7:25 pm

Thank LSS tools operating normally, there is a problem, round closed it? Can automatically smooth?

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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Sun May 13, 2012 9:54 pm

About the LssMatrix
OK, challenge accepted

:thumb: :fro: :enlight:

Actually it is a step towards the realization of one of my dreams: to code a plugin, that performs morphing between selected geometry groups

Finish is not so far! 8-)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Oxer » Mon May 14, 2012 12:09 am

Thanks for the reply kirill!!
kirill wrote:
I didn't adapted web-dialogs for Safari, so most probably they will not work properly on mac I'm not sure that I'll fix this problem, since I don't have mac

I don't know the ruby code but there are other plugins (Sketchup Ivy, some Fredo's plugins,...) that works fine in Mac and they use Safari, if you want you can ask to Fredo6, Didier or Chris Fullmer, perhaps they help you with this. (Excuse me, i know that this problem isn't your priority :oops: ).
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 pm

Here is a demonstration of new LSS Matrix feature 'Scan for changes inside groups'.


It has a lot of limitations and it is unstable and is able to process only simple geometry for now... Anyway I decided to share this stage: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44695539/lss_ma ... _alpha.zip
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Tue May 15, 2012 6:10 pm

Very cool new functions "Scale"! :thumb:
(you have written "Scan" ;)

Seems you win your personal challenge! :fro:
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Tue May 15, 2012 6:21 pm

Pilou wrote:Very cool new functions "Scale"! :thumb:
(you haveve written "Scan" ;)

Well actually face or edge does not store information about its scaling (or any other transformation as well).
The trick is that script 'scans' entities inside groups, detects vertices movements and vertices within intermediate groups approaches from initial position to new position. So after scaling a face it looks like faces within intermediate groups gradually 'scales' from initial scale to new.
That's why this new feature works well only when 'interpolate' option is set to 'Yes'. You may try just for fun not to set 'interpolate' to 'Yes' and see what happen then :)
So I insist that new feature name is 'Scan' :)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Tue May 15, 2012 6:27 pm

Ah tricky "Scan"! :enlight:
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby kirill2008 » Tue May 15, 2012 6:34 pm

Pilou wrote:Seems you win your personal challenge! :fro:

Not yet... The current version has a lot of limitations and very unstable. It's not able to process complex geometry and even sequence of user actions matters (it is necessary to make goup, group copy, then launch 'LSS Matrix' dialog, then edit group and group copy contens, then refresh results). It is necessary to stick to such sequence, because 'LSS Matrix' numerates faces and edges inside initial and copy group after 'Apply' click to be able to track geometry changes properly later during refreshing.
Also it is necessary to edit group contents very carefully: if any face will be broken as a result of editing, then 'Scan' will fail to analyse such changes (entities count has to be equal in initial and copy groups).
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Wed May 16, 2012 12:02 am

Courage! :)
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby guanjin » Sun May 20, 2012 6:26 pm

kirill2008 wrote:Here is a demonstration of new LSS Matrix feature 'Scan for changes inside groups'.


It has a lot of limitations and it is unstable and is able to process only simple geometry for now... Anyway I decided to share this stage: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44695539/lss_ma ... _alpha.zip


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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby unclex » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:04 pm

can not work with SketchyPhysics3
could u fix it?
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby plot-paris » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:26 pm

Hi Kirill,
absolutely magnificent plugin!
Are you still working on it? It is already tremendously powerful. But there are still so many cool possibilities ;)

Like the smooth transition you already mentioned (in addition to the linear one as is the case today).

Or another one: right now if I understand it correctly, you can define up to three axes for the array (does make sense in a 3D-environment :) ).

However, I would very much like to see what one could to with several "key-frame"-groups along one axis (see image below). That would add a great deal of control to the tool (and unquestionably a great deal of work for you... a challenge!)

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Anyway: Thank you very much for this great plugin. Its a lot of fun to play with!!!
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:12 pm

Seems you can make that in 2 pass no ?
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then
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby plot-paris » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:12 am

Pilou wrote:Seems you can make that in 2 pass no ?


Yes indeed you can. In fact, thats how I did this mock-up. But imagine you just needed two clicks... :D

And if you have two or more different key-frame groups in more than one direction... then it gets really tricky...
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Re: [Plugin] LSS Matrix

Postby Pilou » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Yes but so there is no limit !
Why not 10 or 100 inbetweeners modules !:)
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