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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:59 pm

Here's v1.2 viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby SUFractal » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:04 am

TIG wrote:Here's v1.2 viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus


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Just downloaded the new version (w/ 3-sided option). Same issues as before. Tool appears to begin working, TIG::Honeycomber: Perforating appears in status bar ......... appears, then spinning wheel of death appears and refuses to go away.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:53 am

Be patient !
How many perforations are you making ?
If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
Works fine for me and many others...
You do have SUp v8M2 ?
Must be something you are doing ??
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby SUFractal » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:36 pm

TIG wrote:Be patient !
How many perforations are you making ?
If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
Works fine for me and many others...
You do have SUp v8M2 ?
Must be something you are doing ??


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No error message in ruby console prior to tool. Running current version (you reminded me to upgrade remember?) of SU. Trying default setting that pops up. 30+ minutes later and the spinning wheel of death remains. Am I doing anything wrong?

BTW ... the previous version (w/o the 3-sided option) seems to work fine.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:31 pm

Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
This one took ~2 minutes.
Capture4.PNG

I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes :shock: .
There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

I think you don't need so many holes ???

If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...


In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby SUFractal » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:22 pm

TIG wrote:Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
This one took ~2 minutes.
Capture4.PNG

I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes :shock: .
There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

I think you don't need so many holes ???

If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...


In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !


4" cube with simple perforation offers no change in operation.
I'll continue to work in the units I need, thanks.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby guanjin » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Complex point of the porous,the generation process is very slow.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:17 pm

Guanjin

The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
It's inevitable. :?
Set it running and make some tea...
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby guanjin » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:30 pm

TIG wrote:Guanjin

The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
It's inevitable. :?
Set it running an make some tea...



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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby EscapeArtist » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:09 pm

Awesome plugin. I have enjoyed using it so far, just experimenting.

I have noticed it will hang if I breathe wrong when applying a large number of perforations. I can't tab to another program, it will simply lock SU up.

An idea - would it be possible to add a "random" or mathematical feature to the spacing and size? I.e., between 1" to 1'? Add a rotation feature, i.e. each new unit rotates 10 degrees "X", 5 "Y" and 12 "Z" (all 3 axis?), and finally to use one's own model as the subtracted shape?

I realize this may be completely prohibitive by SU's single core use and the added complexity of any intersections, but just a thought. One could come up with almost fractal-like iterations in a medium with these options.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:54 pm

It's almost certainly not 'hanging'.
It just takes ages to process and left to its own devices it will complete [eventually!]
Use the Task Manager to see that Sketchup is still processing away, although the screen has a 'white-out' - it's one of the quirks of SUp, when it's doing intensive calculations it looses the screen...
It does take a while to make all of the changes to the geometry - have patience...

I do have some recoding ideas to speed it up [a little], but testing takes time too...
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby ideas_arte » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:58 am

TIG wrote:It is for v8-Pro only.


:oops: "Free" users will have any chance of using this excellent tool?

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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby TIG » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:59 am

v8-Pro only because it uses several API techniques only accessible to Pro - sorry...
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.2 20120412

Postby ideas_arte » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:31 pm

TIG wrote:sorry...


I understand. :roll: Thank you for all the good work. My best wishes for you
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby TIG » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:24 pm

Here's v1.3 viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
The speed has been improved by ~4x.
The 'shell' version still takes ~4x longer than an un-shelled version because of the many extra steps required - but while ~15 minutes is worse that ~4minutes, it is better than ~60 minutes !!
Some minor glitches have also been fixed with 3-sided setting out centrally.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby guanjin » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:23 am

TIG wrote:Here's v1.3 viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
The speed has been improved by ~4x.
The 'shell' version still takes ~4x longer than an un-shelled version because of the many extra steps required - but while ~15 minutes is worse that ~4minutes, it is better than ~60 minutes !!
Some minor glitches have also been fixed with 3-sided setting out centrally.



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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby dtolios » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:07 am

Amazing work, great potential for this tool...
Unfortunately is too slow for some of the complex shapes I had in mind, but I have trust that it will get better overtime (and yeah, my mobile i7 is not the fastest processor anyways...)
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby charly2008 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:02 pm

TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby SUFractal » Wed May 02, 2012 1:59 am

charly2008 wrote:TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.


I'm curious as to how long it took you to create this?
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby TIG » Wed May 02, 2012 10:04 am

SUFractal wrote:
charly2008 wrote:TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.

I'm curious as to how long it took you to create this?
I reproduced it [badly!]
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby EscapeArtist » Thu May 03, 2012 5:00 pm

Just tried the updated version. Very nice, considerably faster!
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby thraxx2 » Wed May 23, 2012 8:07 pm

Hi everyone, i just need a little help here, trying to model up something which I can't. So here it goes:

1. I used honeyecomber to get the normal triangle tessellation. (first image)
2. I want to bend it and shape it like this! (second image)

I have been trying lots of ways i can think of but to no avail. thanks guys!

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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby JBJDesigns » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:40 pm

Hi TIG!

What an awesome tool! Unfortunately, I'm stuck with SketchUp8 (free). Is there anyway to make this tool work in the free version. If not, I understand.

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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby cotty » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:58 pm

The plugin uses solid functions, which are only available in the PRO version. So I think there will be no (simple and practicable) way for him to change this...
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Re: [Plugin] Honeycomber v1.3 20120414

Postby Oxer » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 pm

Hi TIG,
After much time with the problem on Mac, I can say you the plugin works fine!! :sketchstatic:
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