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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby eyein12 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:18 pm

mitcorb wrote:Is your Template or Style setting part of the problem? Or is your precision set too high? Or are you modeling some really tiny items? I don't know, just trying to shake some ideas.


Just drawing a simple shape to try out the tool. nothing more.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby vojo » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:18 pm

Still pretty new to sketchup, but

I really dont understand the intent of this tool
- softpen appears to do nothing
- I see what some of the other pens do...I guess there must be a need for their functions

Can you give me specific scenario/sequence on doing something with softpen
(I was hoping that it would "round" line corners and such).
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby Gaieus » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:21 pm

Turn hidden geometry on (View menu) and you will see the soft edges the tool draws. Certainly one could live without it: draw traditional edges and soften them afterwards. Sometimes it is a pain in the butt though if you need to draw a lot. This is best to add edges to (or heal missing faces of) already soft meshes, most of the times curved surfaces.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby jgb » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:48 pm

This is something I wanted for a long time, and in fact I d/l'd it last year, put it in my "2B installed" directory (off the "plugin" dir), and then.....
promptly forgot about it. :roll: An all to common occurrence with me.

So today, I got this thread notice, d/l'd it and got the XP warning about overwriting a file. :o

So, :oops: I installed it.

Rich, is there any way to set the toolbar in a vertical format? :idea:
I have no horizontal space top or bottom screen for more toolbars, but I have space on the left, 2 icons wide.
Can I edit the script (with your instructions) until you hopefully furnish an update?
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby Rich O Brien » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Resize it like you would any other toolbar :?

or windows window for that matter. All toolbars can be resized horizontally or vertically
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby jgb » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:17 pm

Rich O'Brien wrote:Resize it like you would any other toolbar :?

or windows window for that matter. All toolbars can be resized horizontally or vertically


Thank you for the excellent guidance... :oops:

For some reason it did not work for me at first.
I reloaded SU and it is resizing as expected.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby Lobster » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:27 pm

Just found this, as usual way behind the plug-in bleeding edge.

Its Freaking Great.

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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby simon le bon » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:17 pm

Hi Rich,

Your Pen set is very nice and I'm glad to use it as a basic SU tools.
I would like to bring your attention on the fact that Pen tools invalidates Jim's Construction Line Tool (opening your Construction Points Pen in place of)
Jim's Construction Line Tool have the very useful option to let the choice to put or not construction points at the construction line extremities.

Do you think it would be possible to add this option to your pen tool ( and may be to fix interference with Jim's tool ?)

Cheers,
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.4 (Update 23/5/2011)

Postby TIG » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:38 pm

Simon

Edit the PenTool's .rb file with Notepad or Notepad++.
Use Find+Replace [respecting the 'case'] for the 4 occurrences of CLineTool and replace with CPLineTool, there's also a lowercase 'def clinetool' - make that 'def cplinetool' too; then it won't clash with Jim's 'CLineTool' at all... :D
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:47 pm

Can you try the latest version I uploaded?

viewtopic.php?p=329548#p329548

I added TIG's suggestions.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby simon le bon » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:22 pm

Hi Rich and TIG,

What a reactivity :thumb: :) Jim's tool in now back!
Thank you to both of you ++

It would be nice to make this option available with your "Guide Draw" because:


Then people will have the choice to use the simple Jim's tool or you complete set ;)

:) simon
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:48 pm

I'll look at Jim's code to see if I can do it. :?
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby ken » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:07 pm

Rich O'Brien wrote:I'll look at Jim's code to see if I can do it. :?



Note, also Jim's tool will allow you to make an infinite guide line. Which I find very useful, as I can draw between two points and have a infinite guideline reference.

Thanks for you plugins

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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby EarthMover » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:02 pm

Rich, ever think about adding a "Group Draw"? Standard line tool that that creates a group upon initial click and draws all lines in that group? Would be useful for me quite often.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:48 pm

That's a great suggestion Adam. But i fear way beyond my skill level.

And I think TIG will break my legs if I pester him anymore about this.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby brookefox » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:21 pm

Not to play the rat here, but wouldn't that be best implemented as a 'begin (within) new group model now' thing, rather than something limited to line creation?
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby Michaelv » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:34 pm

Simon,

Just in case I made a tool that converts any cline to normal line and vice versa, also changes the stipple and color as needed. That may solve some of your inference needs. (I still love and use this tool also though)

See here:
viewtopic.php?t=44311
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby EarthMover » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:13 am

brookefox wrote:Not to play the rat here, but wouldn't that be best implemented as a 'begin (within) new group model now' thing, rather than something limited to line creation?



Most of the Tools on Surface from Fredo come with an option to create within a new group. I use that one quite a bit, but those tools don't always work as expected when not drawing on a surface. It's easy enough to just draw two lines, group them, open the group, then delete the lines and you're in a group where any native tools apply. I just figured most modeling starts with the line tool, so if that initiated the group, you could continue with any other tools from within it and be ahead of the game. I use this most often when tracing perimeters for contours or use with instant site grader plugin.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby rumcajs » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:14 am

I did draw many soft edges, while I corrected rounded corners on object. Later suddenly the tool stopped working and it draws only hard edges, anywhere. I'd stress a lot with it, but nothing helped.

http://i46.tinypic.com/288wq5e.png

When I draw hard edges to triangle, the connected lines do not create a face.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby pbacot » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:54 pm

rumcajs wrote:I did draw many soft edges, while I corrected rounded corners on object. Later suddenly the tool stopped working and it draws only hard edges, anywhere. I'd stress a lot with it, but nothing helped.

http://i46.tinypic.com/288wq5e.png

When I draw hard edges to triangle, the connected lines do not create a face.


IDK about your first question, but on the Second: Note that the "Edge" tool "E" is designed NOT to form faces to provide that option. The "LINE" tool "L" will form faces.

In regards to the Soft Draw tool I do find that it will only draw soft lines (hidden geometry ON) when connecting across a face. For me it will not draw soft edges in open space as shown in the video.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby rumcajs » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:21 pm

The Soft edge tool can close faces. But I did not used Edge tool (!). I used Soft edge - "S" tool, but it draws hard edges instead soft. But I did cca 20-40 faces with soft tool and soft edges when I started the model. And later it stopped to work. So strange. I like the Soft edge tool very much, because it can save a lot of time, but one needs to know, why it fails to draw soft edges occasionally.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby ideas_arte » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:02 pm

¡Thanks!
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby matt.gordon320 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:02 pm

Hi Rich! Thanks again for releasing what has been one of my favorite plugins. I've started setting up the SketchUp installs for my firm, and I've got a little quirk to pass by you:

I'm using Fredo6's 000_Additionalpluginsfolder.rb to pull scripts from a network hard drive to each individual station. For some reason I can't work out, the icons for PenTools don't show up, I just get a blank tool bar, though the buttons and the menu items under the draw menu work fine. In short, the script works, but the icons are missing!

Any thoughts on where to start looking?

Thanks!

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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.5 (Update 16/4/2012)

Postby TIG » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:22 pm

matt.gordon320 wrote:Hi Rich! Thanks again for releasing what has been one of my favorite plugins. I've started setting up the SketchUp installs for my firm, and I've got a little quirk to pass by you:

I'm using Fredo6's 000_Additionalpluginsfolder.rb to pull scripts from a network hard drive to each individual station. For some reason I can't work out, the icons for PenTools don't show up, I just get a blank tool bar, though the buttons and the menu items under the draw menu work fine. In short, the script works, but the icons are missing!

Any thoughts on where to start looking?

Thanks!

-Matt
Edit the main file PenTool+.rb with a plain-text editor [like Notepad or Notepad++]
Find line #1773...
plugins = Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
change it to:
plugins = File.dirname(__FILE__)
and then Save the file.
Restart SketchUp, and it should now find the custom plugins-folder location OK...

Rich should really make this simple amendment to his toolset to allow wider use of custom plugins-folders easier... It's one of the few that still use the outdated find_support_file which always looks to the main Plugins folder :roll:
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:35 am

@Matt

Silent update in the PluginStore

NOTE: If upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.0 please delete the Pen Tool+.rb file and rob_hsltool folder from your plugins folder.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby matt.gordon320 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:19 pm

Thanks both TIG and Rich!
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby alexkara » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:44 am

The first time I use any of the pen tools, tool a line is automatically drawn from my starting point to the central Axis. Thereafter it behaves OK. This happens also when I change back to it.

Anyone have this issue and is there a workaround I am missing. :?:
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby Dave R » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:05 pm

I'm not seeing that at all with these tools.

What operating system, SketchUp version, etc.? Please complete your profile.
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby alexkara » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:33 am

I have updated my profile.

Tried to attach a screen dump but did not know how.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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Re: [Plugin] Pen Tool + v1.6.0

Postby Pherim » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:35 pm

I have the same issue, but only in Sketchup 2015 64bit. Are you sure your profile is correctly updated? It works for me in SU 2013 without problems.

Also, soft draw doesn't work at all in SU2015, the lines start from the origin and are not softened, and weld draw always generates a new line from the origin with every click instead of a continuous line.
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