[Plugin] Solid Inspector (1.1.0) — 30 June 2011

[thomthom]

ThomThom,

Problem is fixed. I completly removed v7 from my system. It seams that he sometimes opened v7 when i thought i was working with v8.

regards,

Guy

Ah - yes, if you double-click a file to open SU it will open the version you last used.

[GWD]

ThomThom,

Thanks for this fantastic plugin!!!!

regards,

Guy

[thomthom]

[fountainhead]

I think this plug-in is long overdue...great job ThomThom! I can't tell you the number of times I've tried a boolean operation, or a volume calculation, only to get the "this ain't a real solid dude" message.

"It isn't a real solid...well what's wrong with it?"

"Not gonna tell ya...but it's wrong for sure. Good luck finding the problem man."

Now instead of hunting aimlessly for the micro gapped edge, or the itty bitty hanging triangle that can only be seen under exponential magnification, you point us right to it.

NICE.

[thomthom]

[tomislavm]

Thanks!
When can we expect this
Future Ideas

* Webdialog list of errors with description of each error. If possible, attempt to automatically fix.
Automatically fix, o yes!

[thomthom]

I don't know. It all depends on when I get a spare moment. I'm currently looking into some UV mapping tool.

[Jim]

Hi Thom. Here's a scenario - I have a Group I'm checking for a solid. It's quite big and takes a few seconds to open and close the Group. When I use Solid Inspector on the Group to find the errors, I then need to open the Group for editing to fix them, then close it to re-check - open, close, open, close, etc.

Would it be possible to tell the plugin to operator on the current context so we do not need to always change the context between checking and fixing?

[thomthom]

Would it be possible to tell the plugin to operator on the current context so we do not need to always change the context between checking and fixing?

Yea - I've been thinking it needs a function like that.

*adding to the todo list*

[Bertier]

Hi there, would it be possible to tell solid :

this is (for example) : solid oak

solid oak is : 640 kg / cubic meter

solid weight : whatever volume * 640 in this case ?

that would be great.

thanx to you guys !

[d12dozr]

Bertier,

Have you seen Volume Calculator by TIG?

[Bertier]

thank, I hadnot seen it.

[Chris Fullmer]

Future Ideas

* Webdialog list of errors with description of each error. If possible, attempt to automatically fix.
Automatically fix, o yes!

I've also written a solid checking tool about a year and a half ago here:
viewtopic.php?f=323&t=17876

The next day TIG followed my plugin with one of his own that attempts to fix missing faces here:
viewtopic.php?p=143720

So you might already have a script that eill help detect and cleanup non-solids. Good luck,

Chris

[mariocha]

You made made day !!!
Works just fine.
This is going to be so usefull !

[Fabiazz]

Why I didn't notice this plugin before. This will fix all my unsolidity problem. Great work!

[panpanndundu]

nice plugin..thanx you...

[vidy]

I'm currently looking into some UV mapping tool.

hmm.. this is been waited for so long too..
before i was count on Whaat UV tool, but i don't know, lately we can't get it to work and there is no confirmation from Whaat regarding to the problem..

i hope this one could be really solved this issue.


regards,

[pdwyer]

This looks like it's going to help me a lot, (THANKS) I'm wondering about what it's telling me. In this particular group its says I have a mess but I'm not 100% sure why. So Orange is a hole and Red is an error? what kind of error? Looking at the pic below, what should I be looking to fix?

solid problems.png

[Jim]

Check for internal faces, for a start. They are usually easier to find than small holes.

Stray edges, also but they can be harder to find especially if small. Todd's StrayLines is an excellent tool for finding those.

[thomthom]

By the looks of it I'm guessing it's internal faces.
I'm adding it to my todo list to update this so it gives more info to exactly what the highlight error is.

[Gaieus]

How about a plugin that actually fixes these glitches instead?


(Yes, I know, I know, we discussed it back in August already...)

[thomthom]

...yea... it's there... somewhere on the list... ...the very long list...

[thomthom]

This Plugin try to fix problems with groups that suppose to be solids but don't show up like a solid in SU.

fixSolid fix the following problems:
* remove single edges
* remove separate faces
* remove edges between coplanar faces
* remove innerfaces
* remove all edges with only 1 face connected (RISKY FIX)

Usage: 1. Select solid
2. Right-Click Context-Menu. If the solid is broken the option 'FIX SOLID'
is present. If the option isn't present there are no problems with
the solid.
3. Select 'FIX SOLID'
4. You get the option to do a risky fix. If you choose a risky fix
it is possible that a part of the solid wil be deleted. This action can
be undone with the normal SU undo function. The risky fix try to fix
all problems, the normal fix only fixes problem with no risk.


Download from: viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

[Gaieus]

Guy posted it in its new topic here:
viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

[Chris Fullmer]

WHat about TIGs plugin that does this? I posted a link to it on the previous page. Has anyone tried it? Does it work well? Here's the link again:

viewtopic.php?p=143720

[driven]

hi Thom,

I've turned on 'BackEdges', coloured the enclosed faces and added a section plane to highlight 'enclosed faces', could this be added..... or maybe highlight enclosed edges, as deleting these is the remedy....
just some thoughts while testing.

btw, the return key as well as tab scrolls thru your views on the mac and getting back to the select tool doesn't work with the space bar when using...

keep up the good work

john

SectionPlane + SolidsInspector.jpg

[thomthom]

I've turned on 'BackEdges', coloured the enclosed faces and added a section plane to highlight 'enclosed faces', could this be added..... or maybe highlight enclosed edges, as deleting these is the remedy....
just some thoughts while testing.

I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models. Removing materials requires some akward workarounds and I didn't want to get into that. Section planes are the same, need to apply some silly hack to add them to the scene ... and I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby.
It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?

btw, the return key as well as tab scrolls thru your views on the mac and getting back to the select tool doesn't work with the space bar when using...

Yes, Tab and Return allows you to navigate to the various areas (I want to make a UI for that.) though it should not be interfering with the Space key at all. I have no problems using it while I use the tool. ... ??

[driven]

I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.

fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby. :(

it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?

sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

(I want to make a UI for that.)

I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

I like what you've done with this so far...

john

[thomthom]

it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

The API only let you get and set the position of section planes. No way to add or activate them.

sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

Oh, detect geometry inside solids. hmm... Not quite sure how one would do that... It's a thinker...

fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

The problem is that one can't assign a style to just a small set of edges - it#s all or nothing.
But, with a new UI one could possibly have a checkbox that would toggle whether the invalid geometry is marked with a material.

[GWD]

I avoided using material as I didn't want to clutter people's models.

fair point, but what about using a 'style' set,that's purged when your done?

Section planes....(edit) I don't think one can even activate them via Ruby.

it seems to me that the api lets you, but I'm no coder...

It should be highlighting the edges though, while the tool is active. you're not seeing that?

sorry, it is highlighting the multi-face edges, it's the enclosed/internal (to volume) edges I was wondering about

(I want to make a UI for that.)

I'm just airing ideas 'for that', I've tested/used all the pre-existing repair-aid scripts (TIG's,VW,CadSpan,etc.) and currently use bits from each, in a rather untidy workflow.

we stop for Xmas next week and I'll try and organise my thoughts a bit better,

I like what you've done with this so far...

john

John, did you already test my new fixSolid? viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33471

Guy