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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:24 pm

That would be great. Since it's intermittent, as you report, the trigger could be under some circumstances which I'd not use it - so being able to see in-action use would help immensely. :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:47 am

One thing: If I have a whole row or pattern of vertices already selected and want to move them (let's say "up") what does it mean when it says, "Pick two points to move......."? I've already several points "picked"????
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:15 am

Bob James wrote:One thing: If I have a whole row or pattern of vertices already selected and want to move them (let's say "up") what does it mean when it says, "Pick two points to move......."? I've already several points "picked"????

I matched the same text for Vertex Tools with the text SketchUp display for it's tools. Works just like the native Move tool.

A "point" is a point in 3d space.
What you select (with Vertex Tools) is a "vertex".
(I had trouble with this when translating to Norwegian, as the words one would pick for both translated to the same word.)
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:04 am

It turns out that the problem (in addition to the standard numbness of my brain) appears to be the computers I am using.

At work (where I really need your tool) I have a three-year-old Mac Pro running Win7 under Boot Camp with two 30" monitors.
At home I have an i7 860 and an nVidea GTX480 running two 24" monitors.

At work is where I was/am having all the difficulty. At home it works fine. So I chalk it up to the "antiquity" of the setup at work.

In the simple test case attached, I've put a horizontal "road" around the "mountain" (it really is flat even though in perspective it doesn't look like it) and a flat plain to put the "house" on. I also attached two meshes by lifting and joining vertices to make the final mesh. I had to rotate the flat surfaces in two directions to get them horizontal, hence the request that I be able to select one of the chosen vertices (or maybe even another vertex not in the original group) as the final level for all chosen vertices.

I'm still not really clear on the "two points": is one a vertex and the other a point in 3D space in the direction I want to move?

I'm anxious to see what direction you're going to take this tool: it has great potential.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:06 am

Bob James wrote:I had to rotate the flat surfaces in two directions to get them horizontal, hence the request that I be able to select one of the chosen vertices (or maybe even another vertex not in the original group) as the final level for all chosen vertices.

I'm thinking that an extra tool is needed. One where, while you move the mouse about it picks up the normal of the face you point on, like the protractor (which you can use the shift to lock), then when you click you make the selected vertices project to that plane.

Bob James wrote:I'm still not really clear on the "two points": is one a vertex and the other a point in 3D space in the direction I want to move?

A point refer to any 3d point in the model, a vertex is always refereed to as a vertex.
Like the native tool, you click one time for the start of the move and a second time for the end. None has to be anywhere on any geometry.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:07 am

I wonder what could cause one of your computers to have problems... do you have problems with other plugins? Or SU tools?
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:16 pm

thomthom wrote:I wonder what could cause one of your computers to have problems...

Beats me :? Most probably user error :roll:
thomthom wrote: do you have problems with other plugins? Or SU tools?

No, and I have a lot of them
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:26 pm

hmm.... let me know if the same issues should manifest them selves on any other computers.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby EarthMover » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:15 pm

Hi Thomas!

Been working on a project all morning and using a lot of vertex tools to stitch two contour meshes together.

Not sure if this is on your list or has been mentioned previously, but have you considered adding a Vert Drop feature to your plugin? Perhaps pulling some of your testing from your Raytest tools or TIG's drape Cpoints plugin? I've been individually moving verts down on the Z axis to intersect with an adjacent mesh below and just thought what a time saver it would be if I could select a row of verts and just hit Drop. Figured I'd mention it.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:20 pm

I have been toying with an idea of a feature where you pick geometry which the vertices will stop on when you move them.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby EarthMover » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:26 pm

Ahh....a Constraint feature. Very cool idea. :thumb: There is something similar in Modo.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:29 pm

Yea - geometric constraints.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:29 am

All is well with your great tool.
Attached is the current status of my major terraforming project (~95% complete).
I could not have done it without Vertex Tools as the major player.
All the areas around the buildings had to be modified, especially those in the upper part
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:17 pm

:) Thanks for posting back examples of what the tool is being used for. :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby xrok1 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:39 pm

hey. how are things going with this one? any news/progress? :D
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:29 am

Working on some other projects at the moment - but they have elements which I pull into VE. In fact, they are somewhat like prototype trials for VE.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:29 am

When I say VE I mean Vertex Tools - I keep thinking "Vertex Edit" which was the working title...
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby xrok1 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:58 am

Can't wait! :D
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:57 pm

xrok1 wrote:hey. how are things going with this one? any news/progress? :D

Several things:
1. I've finished adding more buildings and upgraded some of those that are already in.
2. Used Vertex Tools to clean up more of the Google Earth mesh mismatches.
3. I've purchased Instant Road from valiArchitects.com and plan to make the roads in the GE mesh into "real" roads.
4. Although Thea is my primary render program it's still a beta so they won't get to adding EcoSystem capability until long after I need it: so I've purchase Vue 8 Complete so I can export the whole thing with the new SU2Vue plugin and use the EcoSystem to add "real" bushes and trees. This is going to take a while since I've never used Vue before. :shock:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:01 am

By the way (back on the Vertex Tools thread), how's Version 1.1 coming along?
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Rich O Brien » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:09 am

@Bob

how are you, sir? Hope all is well? Meant to get your email at 3DBC, send me a PM would love to keep in touch

@Thom

Sorry, for the OT!

@SCF

Vertex Tools is essential....10/10 :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:17 am

Bob James wrote:By the way (back on the Vertex Tools thread), how's Version 1.1 coming along?

I've had a month of two of less productivity - in general in regard to plugins. Been a wee bit pre-occupied with buying appartment etc and other boring real life things.

But I have been working on the new Gizmo system - manipulators which I think will make it quicker and easier to handle the selection.
I hope to preview it in a video soon. ( Not a Vertex Tools video - but a new toy... ;) )

Once I got that system polished I plan to add it to VT 1.1 along with some other improvements.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:03 am

Once I got that system polished I plan to add it to VT 1.1 along with some other improvements.


Keep on plugin :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby oneturboneeded » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:39 pm

wow that looks like a dope tool. Thank you for the heads up ill be purchasing soon.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Stinkie » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:31 am

Just bought this. Great stuff. Thanks, Thom. :thumb:
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:55 am

stinkie wrote:Just bought this. Great stuff. Thanks, Thom. :thumb:

Thank you! :)
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Stinkie » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:04 pm

You're most welcome. This plugin will prove of great use for me.
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:05 pm

thomthom wrote:Once I got that system polished I plan to add it to VT 1.1 along with some other improvements.

You've been so prolifically busy lately: have you had a chance to work on this?
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby thomthom » Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:55 pm

I got a batch with updates for my other plugins lined up that will be released soon. Then focus will turn towards Vertex Tools. (the work on the other plugins benefits Vertex Tools, but indirectly.)
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Re: [Plugin][$] Vertex Tools (1.0.0) — 20 July 2010

Postby Bob James » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:29 am

thomthom wrote:I got a batch with updates for my other plugins lined up that will be released soon. Then focus will turn towards Vertex Tools. (the work on the other plugins benefits Vertex Tools, but indirectly.)

Well I have all the rest of your plugins so "bring them on" :berserk:
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