[Plugin] Make Fur (Updated - v.1.5a Thu Oct 28, 2010)

[DareDevil]

Try substituting the comma (,) as the list separator with a semi-colon (;)... so in UK/US 1,2.3,4.5 >> 1;2,3;4,5 in FR.

I tried, but dont work

Or change you regional settings !

Nooooooooo, pleeeeaaaaase

I use Norwegian locale, we also use comma as decimal separator. But using period in this plugin works for me.

Can you use the period in the SU standard value input ? I cant ! I must use the comma and the semi-colon as separator (i.e. 10,5;22,4 for a rectangle).

I noted something in what you said though: (0.0cm,0.0cm,5.0cm)
Did you enter cm into the direction and force vectors?
They should not have length indications. Vectors are just direction indicators.

No, cm is in the default setting.
If it's 0cm it's ok, but if it's 0 cm (with space) it dont work.

OK, I know why I have the unit after value, because it's a SU setting in the Model info : "Display units format". Uncheck it, disable the cm.
... And if I set the Precision (in Model info -> Units) to 0 instead 0,0 all it's ok in the Fur setting windows, I have 0,0,5 (but setting 0cm for Precision or mm for Units in it's not ok for my way of work )

[tak2hata]

Would it be possible to add an option, where you can select that components don't intersect with each other...??

That's very difficult for me.I will challenge future.Please wait without expecting it.

I'm french and use SU on a french vista system. In french we use the comma (,) for decimal separation
If it's 0cm it's ok, but if it's 0 cm (with space) it dont work.

Indeed,I learnt it for the first time. I will think about some measures for that problem.

could you keep the filename free from the version number? That way it's easier to update by just dragging the file into the plugins folder overriding the old.

Thanks.That's right! I will keep the filename.

[Frederik]

That's very difficult for me.I will challenge future.Please wait without expecting it.

I'll keep my fingers crossed...
This plug-in is so much fun to work with...
You have my deepest respect...

[thomthom]

Can you use the period in the SU standard value input ? I cant ! I must use the comma and the semi-colon as separator (i.e. 10,5;22,4 for a rectangle).

Not in the SU VCB area, no. But this plugin doesn't use this, does it?
What I was referring to was the webdialog (metric) for this plugin. The screenshot I showed last time.

No, cm is in the default setting.
If it's 0cm it's ok, but if it's 0 cm (with space) it dont work.

OK, I know why I have the unit after value, because it's a SU setting in the Model info : "Display units format". Uncheck it, disable the cm.
... And if I set the Precision (in Model info -> Units) to 0 instead 0,0 all it's ok in the Fur setting windows, I have 0,0,5 (but setting 0cm for Precision or mm for Units in it's not ok for my way of work )

Are you seeing "cm" in the webdialog for this plugin?
I'm confused...

Or are you talking about SU in general?

[tak2hata]

Hi,All.
I update fur plugin.
Now it's version 1_3d.
this fileName will keep to "fur_en.rb" for future.
When you use this version ,you must remove older version fur plugin file from sketchup plugins folder.

Thanks.

[thomthom]

Good stuff!

Very nice plugin this. Shaping up good.

Another remark: menu names, can you also avoid version number in the menu names? Keep them static? Because when the menu name changes between updates the shortcuts assigned to them doesn't work any more.

[thomthom]

hmmm...
I now see the problem daredevil talked about.

tak2hata:
When the user's locale is decimal you can't use the comma to get the various components of the vectors.

2010-05-20 12h02_47.png

"0,400mm,0mm,0mm" is interpreted as x=0, y=400, z=0

The problem is this:

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  def fur_dialog_ini
    @fur_units_metric = false
    @fur_units_metric = true if ( 0.to_l.to_s )["m"]
    @delim = ","
    @delim = ";" if Sketchup.get_locale.upcase == "FR"
  end


This code only checks for FR Sketchup locale. But there are many more that uses , comma as decimal delimiter. Norwegian for instance.
But, Sketchup.get_locale does not return the locale of the system. It returns the language code of Sketchup.
For instance, I use Norwegian locales, but use English SU. Sketchup.get_locale returns en-US

I've been recently struggling with this myself.
And the hack I ended up using to find the user's comma decimal separator was this: @decimal_separator ||= 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]
See viewtopic.php?f=180&t=28346 for more info.

Now, this only gives you what the comma separator is. I've not found a way to find the list separator. Just I think you can catch most cases by assuming locales with comma as decimal separator uses ; as list separator.


So to revise your code:

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  def fur_dialog_ini
    @fur_units_metric = false
    @fur_units_metric = true if ( 0.to_l.to_s )["m"]
    decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]
    @delim = ";" if decimal_sep == ','
  end


Then there is the other part of that method:
@fur_units_metric = false
@fur_units_metric = true if ( 0.to_l.to_s )["m"]
Use model.options to get the user units.
http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/do ... ml#options

It returns an OptionManager that gives you access to some OptionsProvider classes.
http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/do ... nager.html
http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/do ... vider.html

To inspect the available options, use this snippet:
Sketchup.active_model.options.keys.each {|key| p key; Sketchup.active_model.options[key].each {|k,v| puts "> #{k} - #{v}"} }

Using that you can see that model.options["UnitsOptions"] gives you all the info you need about the model units.
model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"] gives you the unit type.

The unit types are:
// LENGTH_FORMAT: 0 = Decimal, 1 = Arcitectural, 2 = Engineering
// LENGTH_UNITS: 0 = Inches, 1 = Feet, 2 = Millimeters 3 = centimeters, 4 = Meters
// LENGTH_PRECISION: number of decimal places to show
(Found this in the Google SketchUp 7\Resources\en-US\i18n.dat file)

[Gaieus]

...Only in UK in Europe (and I believe on Cypres too) they drive in the left side...

And Ireland, too.

[watkins]

Countries that drive on the left

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Count ... _right.svg

Quite a few.

[solo]

Countries that drive on the left

Looks like a British commonwealth map.

[Gaieus]

Yeah. Though already a minority of the countries, still "the sun never sets over the countries that drive on the left".

[Pilou]

This code only checks for FR Sketchup locale.

And when French user uses directly FR Locale "." (modified) whith English SU version seems there is no problem?

wind.jpg

[tak2hata]

Hi, All.
I update this to v1.3e.
Thomas,Thank you very very much!
At last, I also understood.
I use your code "decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]".
and model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"] >= 2 then unit is metric.
It not depend to Sketchup locale.

I think that this is perhaps no problem.
please reply when there is a problem.

Thanks

[thomthom]

I use your code "decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]".
and model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"] >= 2 then unit is metric.
It not depend to Sketchup locale.

I think that this is perhaps no problem.
please reply when there is a problem.

I think that should work.

[thomthom]

Oh - you posted update already! I see. I'll try it out then.

[thomthom]

1.3e not working for me.

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass>
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:734:in `fur_dialog_ini'
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:741:in `fur_webdialog'
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1414
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1413:in `call'

[TIG]

With 1.3e I get Error: #<TypeError: no implicit conversion to float from nil>
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `initialize'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `new'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `s_to_vec'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:713:in `show_webdialog'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:658:in `call'
with the 'web-dialog' accept button.
You must be passing an empty argument to a defn ?

[tak2hata]

:( 1.3e not working for me.

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass>
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:734:in `fur_dialog_ini'
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:741:in `fur_webdialog'
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1414
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1413:in `call'

I think this is LengthFormat or LengthPrecision problem.
So I will change code..

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def fur_dialog_ini
   unitoptions = Hash.new
   Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"].each{|key ,val| unitoptions[key] = val }
   Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthFormat"] = 0 if unitoptions["LengthFormat"] != 0
   Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthPrecision"] = 1 if unitoptions["LengthPrecision"] == 0
   @fur_units_metric = false
   lunit = unitoptions["LengthUnit"]
   @fur_units_metric = true if lunit >= 2
   lprec = Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthPrecision"]
   @decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]
   @delim = ","
   @delim = ";" if @decimal_sep == ','
   unitoptions.each{|key ,val| Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"][key] = val }
end


With 1.3e I get Error: #<TypeError: no implicit conversion to float from nil>
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `initialize'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `new'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:1326:in `s_to_vec'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:713:in `show_webdialog'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/fur_en.rb:658:in `call'
with the 'web-dialog' accept button.
You must be passing an empty argument to a defn ?

Sorry,I will change the code.

[thomthom]

Why are you doing this?

Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"].each{|key ,val| unitoptions[key] = val }
Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthFormat"] = 0 if unitoptions["LengthFormat"] != 0
Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthPrecision"] = 1 if unitoptions["LengthPrecision"] == 0

You're changing the model settings.

[thomthom]

This whole thing makes no sense...

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    def fur_dialog_ini
       unitoptions = Hash.new
       Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"].each{|key ,val| unitoptions[key] = val }
       Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthFormat"] = 0 if unitoptions["LengthFormat"] != 0
       Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthPrecision"] = 1 if unitoptions["LengthPrecision"] == 0
       @fur_units_metric = false
       lunit = unitoptions["LengthUnit"]
       @fur_units_metric = true if lunit >= 2
       lprec = Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthPrecision"]
       @decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]
       @delim = ","
       @delim = ";" if @decimal_sep == ','
       unitoptions.each{|key ,val| Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"][key] = val }
    end



You create an hash to store model UnitOptions, then change them and then restore the original values...?

[thomthom]

From what I could understand, that method could be condensed to:

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    def fur_dialog_ini
       units = Sketchup.active_model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"]
       @fur_units_metric = (units >= 2) # true if units are 2 or greater
       @decimal_sep = 1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]
       @delim = (@decimal_sep == ',') ? ";" : ","
    end


[tak2hata]

Hmmm,
When LengthFormat is Architectural or LengthPrecision = 0,
"1.2.to_l.to_s.match(/\d(\D)\d/)[1]" return error.

Is that problem excluding this?

[thomthom]

Ah, yes. I see the problem. ..hm... this needs some more thinking...

[thomthom]

Ok - turns out that you can't trust the SU methods to extract the decimal separator as model settings affects the length to string formatting. (Should have thought of that. )

Looking at there seems to mostly be just comma or period as decimal separator. At least if you make that assumption it will cover most.

So here is an alternative:

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  def get_decimal_separator
    # If this raises an error the decimal separator is not '.'
    '1.2'.to_l
    return '.'
  rescue
    return ','
  end

  def fur_dialog_ini
    @decimal_sep ||= get_decimal_separator
    @delim ||= (@decimal_sep == ',') ? ";" : ","
  end


This snippet makes some assumptions:
Only comma or period as decimal separator.
If the separator is a period then comma is used as list separator.
If the separator is a comma then ; is used as list separator.

The method is working out the decimal separator is by trial and error.

[jchau2007]

wow... keep it coming. Thanks.

[AcesHigh]

I thought of a very cool thing to do with this plugin... those xmas stuff that you put on Xmas trees, you know?? Well, actually this plugin also makes it easy to do the Xmas tree itself.

I am talking about this thing that goes around the tree

[Rich O Brien]

Is v1.3e working for others?

Nothing happens when i select it?

[EscapeArtist]

I did have some issues as well, didn't check the console though. I had a model I'd saved using the previous "make fur" revision and was attempting to use the plugin, nothing happened - dialogue wouldn't open. I opened a "new" scene (File > New) and then the plugin worked.

[tak2hata]

I update to version 1.3g.
Vector parameter split to 3 parameter each.
and I change preset file.
I think this vesion has problem yet.

For the time being, It going on my sketchup.
But very difficult for me to convert units.
and so tired.

Thanks.

[thomthom]

I appears to work. I'll see if I can get some time to have a better look at your script and see if I can help with the units.