[Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice

[Pilou]

I don't see how I could do the same with else tools

Maybe 2 faces + path + FFD(or fredoscale)

[simon le bon]

I don't see how I could do the same with else tools

Maybe 2 faces + path + FFD(or fredoscale)

Hi Pilou

First, using "Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice"
1) I had kept the perfect control on the general shape ( I think it's not possible at such degree with FFD or even with Fredoscale )
2)I had presently used a simple grid of rails, so I could do it by hand (erasing unwanted in the skinned shape). I can't imagine to achieve the same on a real large number of curves without the help of EEbRtL ..

Secondly, you are right for Kirill "2 faces + path" which plays in the same playground with "ExtrudeEdgesByFaces"

*simon

[TIG]

Here's an update viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
It now has 'Diagonals' as an option.
Reversing the order of picking the Rails swaps the direction of the diagonals.
The lingvo files have been updated to match.

[olishea]

cheers for grouping explanation.I think i clicked select all connected by color or something.....oopsy

fantastic work TIG, hats off!

[Pilou]

As you refine more and more does it possible to generate a "2 colors Checkboard" from the lattice?

I have missed one case

checker.jpg

[TIG]

As you refine more and more does it possible to generate a "2 colors Checkboard" from the lattice?

checker.jpg

Pilou !
Maintenant vous 'prenez la pisse' !

However, it would be relatively easy - the panes are stored as an array in the logical order they are made.
We know the number of them down the rail and across the profile.
If the number of profiles is odd then every other one is colored, if it's even then every other one is colored, BUT swapping the rule over at every 'rail' step change...
If you separate out the panes by selecting by material and grouping they will remain ordered.
Then find the group's faces...

Code: Select all

group=Sketchup.active_model.selection[0]
panes=[]
group.entities.each{|e|panes<< e if e.class==Sketchup::Face}
0.upto(panes.length-1) do |i|panes[i].material="black" if i/2==1/2.0; end

Swap "black" for your desired color...
This works for odd-numbers of panes across the profile - I'll leave you to do the line of code to do it for even-numbers...

[Pilou]

I will examine that
I hope that can be input in the ruby console

For the French line does it possible to have the original
because seems the translator gives a very exotic result
something like that!

[olishea]

lost in translation

[TIG]

It's actually the same is English !
Even the same word, but without the 'e'.
Means much the same thing, 'faire pipi'...
We say "taking the ****" = making an unwelcome joke.
A convoluted way of saying someone is making a bad joke at your expense is to say, "You are extracting the urine, aren't you?".
C'est comme 'chier' ?
Noteworthy: to be "****ed" is to be drunk [intoxicated] in the UK, but it means very fed-up or in a bad mood in the USA.
In the UK we would used "****ed off" to be very fed-up or in a bad mood...
Which confusing is a vulgar way of saying that someone has left unexpectedly [probably in a bad mood] - e.g. "He's ****ed off !" = He has [just] left here.
Then to be on the '****' is to be out on the town drinking.
To be a drunk is a to be a '****-head' [pejorative].
To waste something valuable is to '**** it up the wall'.
Whilst something of unacceptably low quality is said to be '****-poor' !
In construction '****ed' means to be out of plumb - not vertical: e.g. "That door-frame is ****ed".

All very confusing

[Pilou]

Ok I see what do you mean
But that is absolutly not the same in French
That don't exist with this liquid for these meanings!
A very familiar slang can be "vous vous foutez de moi" = you exagerate, you overpass the limits, you take me for a fool...
(or "tu te fous de moi" between best friends )
A convoluted way of saying someone is making a bad joke at your expense is to say
More elegant : "Vous vous moquez du monde", "Vous ne manquez pas d'air", "vous me prenez pour un pigeon, une andouille" etc...
"Vous me faites chier" is the ultimate, insurmontable, for something who is absolutly obstrusive disturbing in the univers of the person!
But very slanguy language indeed!

[TIG]

So, we both learn how to cuss better in our respective languages !

So, don't mess with me dude !

[majid]

it is greeeeaaaaattttt TIG. you are killing me slowly grrreaaat. thanx

[simon le bon]

Here's an update viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
It now has 'Diagonals' as an option.

This new tool is already but still growing an absolute "must have". Thank you so much Tig!

Reversing the order of picking the Rails swaps the direction of the diagonals.

very elegant solution indeed

+++simon

[Pilou]

IF I well understand "diagonals" is only for wire

diagonales.jpg

[robert111]

simn le bon , very nice job , how did you do to have this form plz
can you make tutto ?

[TIG]

There's a new version of EEbyRailsToLattice in the zipped set.
The change is to the way the Line only versions are Grouped...
viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239

[numerobis]

AWESOME!!! Thank You very much for ANOTHER very helpful tool!!!

[simon le bon]

simn le bon , very nice job , how did you do to have this form plz
can you make tutto ?

Thank you Robert,
very simple.

RE: take care to carefully place the component axis (the blue axis is going to follow the curves)

Then You will need Component Stringer from (our wellknown very nice fellow) Chris Fullmer

It is recommended to apply a shortcut to this plugin :_ Window/ Preferences/ Shortcuts: for example Alt+c
Because we have now to apply it one by one to each diagonal curve.

that's it!

simon

[Pilou]

Have you some easy trick for make faces with the 2 diagonals lattices?

[TIG]

If the profiles and rails are parallel [copied etc] the diagonal lines are not needed for face forming - hence the prompt to remove them.
BUT if you make a lattice of the two sets of diagonals [regrouped and exploded], then they do not make coplanar quads and so they can't take faces - of course by adding a diagonal to a quad it will face, but then you have then gone 'full circle' and might as well have used plain EEbyRails in the first place !
So diagonal 'diamond' lattices won't take faces.
This is about as near as you can get - make a quarter using EEbyRails, copy the mesh to one side, Scale -1 to mirror the diagonals and overlay the two so the 'diamonds' form, then manually erase the unneeded orthogonal lines to get the diagonal lattice - note it must have some horizontals to let it 'bend' over. Rotate-Copy x3 to form the whole. Now use Windowizer to add the frames/panes ?

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[eddy]

cool plugin
thanks, thanks,thanks.

[Pilou]

@TIG : THX for the precision!
But for this sort of thing prefer this maybe more easy
I have used Windowiser by Rick Wilson and this little useful plug of Multiple face Offset by Remus, Selection Toy by Thomthom and of course your Inverse Selection!

[TIG]

There's an updated zipped set available viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
All lingvo files have been updated.

[maximas]

please i would like to cretae an effect like this on my facade how can i do this.??

can u do an small tutorial of the use of the plugin??? thanks

[goldenma]

Thanks TIG, truly marvelous tool!!
one question, though - is there a function to generate 3d geometries on the diagonals? the same effect of "extrude edges by rail by face" but for diagonals.
right now i can get the diagonal lines using "extrude---to lattice", but i'll have to "follow me" each line with a profile.
thanks a lot!

[TIG]

Use the EEby lattice tool to make a mesh of only the diagonals as lines - one of the options [no 3D yet].
Now you have a set of grouped curves == the diagonals.
You might want to do a bit of un-grouping/regrouping now...
We'll now use EEbyFace...
Draw a face as a profile on the 'flat', in the same entities set as these curves [remember the face's Y=up when extruded].
Use the preselected face and curves with EEbyFace - you should get the face used to form an extrusion with each of the diagonal curve's as a path, in turn...

[goldenma]

Thanks TIG! that's a great tool that i overlooked. it's a lot better than doing follow me on every curve.

[Crevard]

i was just wondering how i could make a lattice dome with this plugin and btw thx for these awesome plugins !!!!!!

[TIG]

i was just wondering how i could make a lattice dome with this plugin and btw thx for these awesome plugins !!!!!!

Make a quarter of the dome and then Polar-Array Copy it with Rotate+Ctrl, explode the 4 groups and regroup as 1 etc... See this quick example:

EEbyRailsToLattice Example.PNG

[Crevard]

yes ! this will be really handy in future with my studies ! that's really cool now i begin to understand the concept , thanks to you ( RESPEEEECT !!!! )