tested your .skp on mac and got two different results? first time I opened SU from your download file, 2nd time I opened it from inside SU, but that was the only thing I changed, something odd??
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Manifold has to start somewhere in its checking - the first entity it encounters might not always be the same so you get differing results if there's a big mess...
Manifold was written to do specific job - check that a group is 'manifold' and if not try to fix it - it is so that when you export your model - e.g. to 3D-printer software - it will work. As it says at the start 'give us break' and try and at least offer it a set of geometry you hope might be manifold - it is NOT a boolean tool to merge volumes - it tries to decide which is the face to keep but sometimes removing or healing something changes the form - hence the colored 'report' group.
Before using 'manifold' try manually to get rid of at least a few known internal faces etc [x-ray mode + hide is good for this] - then the processing is quicker and more consistent...
I well understand
The only curious thing is that it not the same result for 2 similar groups inspected
Is beautiful that please without concept!
Here's v2.2 - updated FR lingvo file [thanks to Didier Bur] and glitches with Tooltips and other strings deBabelizing now sorted...
Does/should this work with SU 8?
I'm not seeing any colours or new models created, even with the downloaded example but the example skp file is v7.
I suspect v8 needs a plugin like this too. If there is some other way to find doubles/duplicates/manifolds etc I'd love to know
In v8 there are 'manifold' functions built in...
Solid Tools. The Entity Info window will indicate "Solid Group" when a Group is manifold.
And here's a great plugin for trouble-shooting non-manifold Groups that should be:
Solid Inspector by thomthom
Last edited by Jim on Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:41 pm, edited 3 times in total.
The new solid tools. Outer shell (available in the free version, too), should do (more or less) what manifold plugin would (unless I am completely mistaken as I have never used this plugin yet)
Cheers! I found a tool called solid Inspector which shows some red and orange lines. I'm not 100% sure what the problem is in some cases (although in others it's obvious). I'll see if I can track down where to ask about those tools
You can ask about Solid Inspector here: viewtopic.php?f=323&t=30504&p=267832#p267832
IT circles red/orange around edges where there is a hole, or the edge connect to internal faces. In a solid all edges should have two connected faces - if there are more or less it means it's not a solid. These are the areas which the inspector highlights. So check if the faces are connected to internal faces, or if it's a hole. Note that the whole could be very small and you'd have to zoom a lot to see it.
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Thanx for creating this awsome plugin! I have been working on converting 3D objects from some GIS application and it has been so difficult, until now, that is.
I just have one small and kind of silly question but please bear with me:
After running Manifold a copy of the selected group is created. Wich one is the fixed one? Are both fixed? The way i interpret what happens right now is that the one created is just a "showcase" of what changes have been made and that it should be removed.
Does this answer your query?
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Thanx for the quick reply!
Sadly the answer is no. This quoted text is the reason I wrote this post in the first place. And no: I am not trying to be a pain in the ass, I just don´t get it.
"It then processes the group, making a modified copy of it set off to
This sentence kind of implies that the first "original" group has not been modified but that the generated one has.
"This error-group has a 'text-handle' so you can easily select it to
move it away or erase it later..."
This implies both groups have changed, but in different ways.
So I am thinking the logic could be that the program leaves the original group unchanged for comparison, as that seems to be a big deal further down the text, or that the original group is fixed along with the generated group but that the latter one is just a showcase.
It works on a copy of the original group that it has made and offset to one side.
The third 'error group' [if any] simply highlights these errors and it is overlaid onto the original group...
However... please note that this particular 'Manifold' tool is a slow old crock and it has long been superseded by some newer better things... so I no longer 'support it'...
Thomthom's 'SolidInspector' shows where errors occur that are causing non-solidity.
My newer 'SolidSolver' tries to fix them [affecting the original, but 'undo-able'].
There are also one or two other tools that try to do this kind of thing too...
I recommend you get those and retry.