[Preview] Skabinet (make cabinets with Sketchup)

[mics_54]

I don't know much about building a ruby script but I do know cabinetry construction if you need input. Customization of panels, pedestals, ladders, cletes, rabbits, dados, frameless (euro) or face front styles would make the script useful. Of course if you are a cabinet maker you are probably already aware of these things.

oh..and adjustable shelves.

[linea]

Newone this is great,

It is the plugin I would make - if I knew ruby. Cant wait to use it

[NewOne]

This looks like it will be a great tool. I noticed that the description only references metric measurements. Is that determined by the plugin or does the plugin use the units set up in SketchUp?

I'm planning to make it adopt Sketchup's units, but for now I don't really know how.

[NewOne]

Newone this is great,

It is the plugin I would make - if I knew ruby. Cant wait to use it

I learned ruby JUST to make this, believe me! You can help with ideas, instead

[stefanq]

Excellent Andrei! I really need it! Do it!

[dedmin]

to dedmin: Only some of cutlist optimizing software accept automatic input of edging. As you may know, CutMaster 2D http://www.cutmaster2d.com/ doesn't accept this, but it accept manual input of edge banding. What software is that, of window which you are displaying?

to TIG: thanks for your appreciation. I learned a lot from sketchucation and you (and others) helped me in the process.

to utiler: I'm waiting for your list!

This is a CutList Plus software. To export my data from SketchUP to CutList Plus I'm using CutList plugin. CutList Plus supports import of cvs or txt files. It recognizes four types of banding information:

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I'm using the second format and attach banding information to the name of the component using ; as a delimiter:

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Here is the cvs file created by the CutList plugin to be imported in CutList Plus:

Untitled_CutListPlusImport.zip

[jhoutman]

Looks great! So you are creating individual boards that are components, right? Then they are grouped together in a group.
How easy would the cabinet (group) be to edit or change size? I am working on a ruby that allows one to copy the whole group and automatically makes unique except where internally for the new cabinet/group, the components will not be unique to each other. If that makes sense. This part is done.
The idea is to make say a prototype cabinet or drawer. Copy or clone it. Then edit its dimensions with part II of my tool and bang! you have a new cabinet.
Perhaps FredoFreeScale does that. I have not check yet.

[bluecollar]

Hi Jhoutman

I use fredoscale everday for exactly what you are describing. For instance I have a standard drawer design which i cut on a cnc router. It features sides with slots for the base panel of 6mm plywood and notching for a lap joint for front and back. In order to use the drawer in all of my cabinetry i pull it from my components window, select it, click the appropriate fredoscale scale tool(forgive me i have never taken cogniscance of its name), select the appropriate axis for redimensioning (width ,height, or depth),hit TAB key and enter the new overall dimension required.

Fredoscale to my jaw dropping amazement(believe me it gives me the chills every time) resizes the drawer, keeping all the components exactly as they should be. for instance when i change the width the front and back rail extend to the appropriate length with the lap joint staying the correct depth, whilst the sides keep their thickness. when i change the height of the drawer all of the components stretch to their correct widths but the slot for the base stays the standard 15mm from the bottom and the 6.5mm wide that i need it.

It is simply the most astounding and usefull script for cabinetmaking ever!

[bluecollar]

Hi New One

Looks like you are doing an incredible thing there, I also use Cutlistplus and would welcome the edging detail export. In most of the cabinetry i do my panels are "upgraded" ie. I edge the board with solid timber of varying thicknesses, depending on the application, then veneer the board afterwards. If one had a simple edgebanding tool incorperated, say by being able to specify a edgebanding type that could then be "applied" to the appropriate edge that would be incredibly usefull.

thanks in advance for what looks like a script which will further enhance su's usefullness in furniture design

[bagatelo]

I think that each part of the object should be adjustable. From the lid, the doors, the drawers, the baseboard. Then everything should be parametric.

[dedmin]

Please, guys! This is not SolidWorks!

[xrok1]

Well?

[MartinRinehart]

Looks like you've outlived your user name! Good work.

I can't find such forum [woodworking] on sketchucation. Can you give me a link?

See the board index, far right, at the bottom of every topic.

[NewOne]

Uff, "soon" didn't meant after 2-3 weeks. Sorry for that. I'm still working on it. Unfortunately I have little time to work on it. But it will! Live your life in that time.
Since now I re-made id from scratch for three times. And the hard part is that I'm learning programming in this time, because I don't have any experience.

So, sorry again. This thread was intended to collect some ideas that will help to guide this plugin in right direction.

[dedmin]

Thanks for this script, but it is not so practical - groups with strange names, BOM is messy and etc. Since introduction of the FredoScale plugin the kitchen design is very easy - just make all the models and modules and then drag and drop or stretch where needed and export with CutList! This way you can put the banding info and all the hardware. And you have all the models ready for the clients to choose from!

[finewood]

Hello Draftsman
The FredoScale plugin is really great. I take my hat off. Congratulations.
First, I must deepen my knowledge of Ruby and English and look at it more closely, but I think it is the same idea behind it.
An other idea was, my plugins open expose in the network and so suspend for the "Internet User evolution".

Yet another way to enlightenment:
I am a holder of a small carpentry, but I do it all for fun.
Other People solving Sudoku....

[finewood]

Hello it's me again
A silly question: where can I look more closely the plugin (download)?
Can someone send me an address?
Or have I misunderstood something?
Regards
finewood

[utiler]

NewOne, I just PM'd you some ideas; let me know what you think....

[SiLo]

Just wanted to say that this plugin will be genius. Not to pressure you too much, but what sort of schedule do you have for release? Before January or later? I like to use Sketchup and find it's getting more powerful everyday, yet keeping a level of simplicity. I would rather not start using a stand-alone package for cabinet design and prefer something like what you are making.

[NewOne]

Just wanted to say that this plugin will be genius. Not to pressure you too much, but what sort of schedule do you have for release? Before January or later?

In the first place I planned to finish it in December, but as I got stuck with something, I think February will be.

[Jmae]

The plug-in is user friendly, great work! I understand things are keeping you busy that is why the release is not yet official. I hope you can settle everything by now because many cabinet enthusiast can't wait to use your plug-ins fully. Patio Furniture

[NewOne]

I'm asking now for some help, especially in JS programming. If someone wants to help me with this, please contact me. As the current problem will be solved, I will be able to release first version of the plugin. I think this can be a matter of days if I will get some help from a high skilled programmer.
Please send PM if interested.

Thank you.

[utiler]

I'm asking now for some help, especially in JS programming. If someone wants to help me with this, please contact me. As the current problem will be solved, I will be able to release first version of the plugin. I think this can be a matter of days if I will get some help from a high skilled programmer.
Please send PM if interested.

Thank you.

I wish I could help, NewOne. I now nothing about programming. I do look forward to your first release though!!!!

[Todd Burch]

What do you need? Todd

[utiler]

How are you going with this, NewOne? Any advance?

[akigrimm]

Hi NewOne

Big project you´re on.
About cutting optimization. Have you tried swiftopt or bestopt? They seem quite reasonably prized. Maybe a collaboration is possible.
If you do parametric cabinet design then it should be easy to export the cutlist in almost any format that you need. This would be almost independent from the drawing.

We have a CNC machine program that does about that: It produces a partlist and the programes for each part automatically. I could send you the excel equivalent only i need to translate it. Tell me, if you ant it.

We have implemented several standards that don´t make so much difference on how the cabinet looks like, but on how it is produced. E.g. are there dozens of posibilities on how to adjust a cabinet in height. Or only think of jointers... Maybe this is not so important for a mere drawing of the boards and how the cabinet looks like as a presentation for clients etc. But still there are countless variations.

I think it would be very difficult to match all types of cabinets everywhere. So maybe start something simple and try to expand it later? Or is there a chance of designing a rather simple tool that imports parts from a csv to SU. You could calculate e.g. in excel or a mysql database and everyone could adapt that to his design. I think the more difficult part would be to define the position of each board in reference to the adjacent ones. But in this manner everyone could easily program their own cabinet and we could get a whole gallery of simple csv sheets or what ever and put them into your program. Its a bit like dc but I found dc as a interface two clumsy to handle for such a complex thing as cabinets.

Then you could add legs as dcs or from a gallery and the same with doors. Or try the same thing as before and divide the complexity in several single programs.

Maybe contrary to what you have done already.

[dannyver]

when is it coming out looking forword to it

[jo-ke]

any chance to see this plugin finished?

[charly2008]

Hi NewOne,

here is the link to Woodworking: viewforum.php?f=183

Charly

[yesyes]

great tool if it can maintain the simplicity & flexibility...can't wait to see it!