Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Frankn » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:19 am

Hi,
Like the title says... I'm looking for a way to replicate the ceiling function in excel. I played around with ceil but either I'm not getting it or it doesn't do the same as excel.

I basically want to round off numbers/measurments to the nearest 1/64.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby TIG » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:53 am

If n is your number, then multiplying it by 100 and rounding it would
round it to 2 decimal places, then divide it by 100 to get your decimal
back...
n = 12.3456
n * 100 = 1234.56
round(n) = 1235
1235 / 100 = 12.35

So to make a simple flexible function [method] use
def round_to(n, x)
(n*10**x).round.to_f/10**x
end

Usage: where n=12.3456 and you want 2dps...
n=round_to(n, 2)
>>> 12.35
Adjust the dp's to suit your needs...
If you are then turning the value into a string you can use this one step
strn=sprintf("%.2f", n)
>>> "12.35"
Again adjust the numerical part to suit the dp's desired...
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:00 am

Thank you Tig... that is helpful but it doesn't accomplish exactly what I'd like it to do... unless I'm not using it properly.

Here's a more concrete example of what my problem is...

A result I get after doing some funky math is 0.17578125 but I'd like to round that off to 0.1875. In Excel I'd this =CEILING(0.17578125, 1/64) and that works great.

0,17578125 is actually more accurate but it's TOO accurate. :) Because I get a measurement inside Sketchup that has the ~ in front of it.

Basically I'de likt to set the accuracy of my formulas to 1/64.

I appologize if it's me not 'getting' your previous answer... I guess from my question you already guessed I'm still new to this whole programming deal. :oops:
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:43 am

I'm pretty sure nothing like that is built into ruby. At least not the 1.8 branch of ruby.

Here is my hacked together version. I would guess others here might have a cleaner or smoother way of doing it. But this works (I think!).

def precision(num, a, b)
num_i = num.to_i
decimal = num - num_i
smaller=true
a -= 1.0
#This loop determines what fraction the decimal is between - 12/64 or 13/64 for example.
while smaller
a +=1.0
unless decimal > a/b
smaller = false
end
end

#Set some test numbers
val1 = a/b
val2 = (a-1)/b
dif1 = (val1 - decimal).abs
dif2 = (val2 - decimal).abs

# If our decimal is closer to equal to the larger fraction, then return integer of our original number, with the decimal place added on.
# Otherwise return our base number plus the smaller fraction added on as the decimal.
if dif2 >= dif1
return num_i.to_f+val1
else
return num_i.to_f+val2
end
end

my_float = (82.0 / 131.0) + 10
#You have to supply 1/64 as 2 float numbers (include the ".0" at the end!
precision(my_float, 1.0, 64.0)
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:53 am

Thanks Chris...

I'm going to need to study that for awhile because at first glance I'm lost :D but on the other hand I'm glad it's not something simple because I was racking my brain trying to figure this out! :oops:
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:30 am

Well, I put a few comments in it to help explain it, but not much. Here's a verbal rundown of it

I've defined a method that accepts your float number, and the 2 numbers of the fraction you want to use for tolerance. 1/64 for example, gets written as 1.0 and 64.0 So if your number to round is 0.17578125, then you do this to round it:

my_num = 0.17578125
rounded_num = precision(my_num, 1.0, 64.0)

And rounded_num gets the returned rounded value.

The method does a few simple steps. First it takes your float and makes an integer version of your float and subtracts them. This is doing 23.123321 - 23 = 0.123321 Its just a way to isolate the decimal, which is all we want for comparison. Then it runs a loop, testing to see if the decimal is greater than 1/64. If its greater, then we loop again, adding 1 to the original 1, making 2. It tests if the decimal is greater than 2/64. If it is, it tries again, adding 1 to 2, making 3. It does this until it reaches a case where the decimal is smaller than the fraction. That tells us that our decimal lies between the most recent tested fraction, and the one just smaller than it. So your example of 0.17578125 lies between the fraction of 11/64 and 12/64.

Then we have to figure out to which it is closer. So I get a value for 11/64 and 12/64. Then subtract our decimal from both, return the absolute value and compare them. If it is closer to the 12/64 then it returns that. If its closer to 11/64, then it returns that.

That is sort of the convoluted answer.
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:43 am

Wow! Thanks for taking the time to explain it in a Ruby's for Dummies term! :) No way I would of come up with a solution to that problem!

That now makes total sense... now I'm off to try and implement this in my script... should fun :D

Thanks again!
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Jim » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:02 am

my_num = 0.17578125
frac = 16.0 # 1/16th (radix, specifically)
rounded_num = (my_num * frac).round / frac
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:06 am

That can't be right, you didn't even have to make any special methods to do that :oops: :lol:
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Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

Postby Dan Rathbun » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:19 am

This is for measurements?

One limitation within Sketchup, is that the precision is limited to 0.001", no matter what the model units are set to.

So using a fractional float of 0.1875" may get rounded by Sketchup. Will it be 0.187" or 0.188" ??
I would suggest that you decide what it will be in your 'rounding' method...
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Jim » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:20 am

    @Chris -Been there - just passing it along.
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby TIG » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:41 am

    Here's Jim's clever solution made into a method...
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    def roundtofraction(num, frac)
      num = num.to_f
      frac = frac.to_f
      return (num * frac).round / frac
    end
    Usage:
    my_num = 0.17578125
    my_frac = 16
    my_num=roundtofraction(my_num, my_frac)
    >>> 0.1875
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:49 pm

    Jim wrote:my_num = 0.17578125
    frac = 16.0 # 1/16th (radix, specifically)
    rounded_num = (my_num * frac).round / frac


    Dude you're a genius! That is awesome! :berserk:

    Thank you!!
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:52 pm

    Chris Fullmer wrote:That can't be right, you didn't even have to make any special methods to do that :oops: :lol:


    Chris don't feel bad even after doing this thing called 'programming' for the last few weeks I'm still getting the hang of methods, classes and all that jazz!! :oops: :lol:
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:59 pm

    Dan Rathbun wrote:This is for measurements?

    One limitation within Sketchup, is that the precision is limited to 0.001", no matter what the model units are set to.

    So using a fractional float of 0.1875" may get rounded by Sketchup. Will it be 0.187" or 0.188" ??
    I would suggest that you decide what it will be in your 'rounding' method...


    Yes Dan, this is for measurements.

    I didn't know that limitation about Sketchup, interesting. But I'm not building a plane here just cabinets, vanties and that kind of thing, but I just don't like seeing that ~ and this script programming is addictive! You just keep adding on features and stuff you can do, I think I might have a problem. :lol:

    Thanks for the info
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Frankn » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:00 pm

    TIG wrote:Here's Jim's clever solution made into a method...
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    def roundtofraction(num, frac)
      num = num.to_f
      frac = frac.to_f
      return (num * frac).round / frac
    end
    Usage:
    my_num = 0.17578125
    my_frac = 16
    my_num=roundtofraction(my_num, my_frac)
    >>> 0.1875


    Thanks yet again TIG! :D
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:10 pm

    Yeah TIG, thanks for wrapping it into its own method, now it feels at least slightly over-engineered :)
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby TIG » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:19 pm

    Anything to prolong the embarrassment ;)
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:18 pm

    TIG wrote:Anything to prolong the embarrassment ;)


    :thumb: :D
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    Re: Is there a ceiling function like in excel?

    Postby Dan Rathbun » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:22 am

    Just a note to remind all..

    ... that now with Ruby in the 1.8.6 branch, we have both a ceil() and a floor() method defined for the Float class.
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