Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:38 pm

I've been thinking about starting and running an IRC channel (eg, sketchup-ruby) for SketchUp Ruby developers. Before I commit to this, however, I thought I should know whether I'd be alone on it.

I would also like to know if anyone else might be willing to help run it. let me know...
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Jim » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:03 pm

RichMorin wrote:I thought I should know whether I'd be alone on it.


Probably, but it still might be fun. There might be more users if you make it a general-purpose SketchUp support channel; and even so I still think the signal-noise ratio would be low enough for a dev channel.

How many people do not know what IRC is?
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby thomthom » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:43 pm

Been a long time since I used IRC...

/me goes to look for his old copy of mIRC
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:32 pm

I had suggested this some time ago and got little interest then. But I am still interested. I have felt much of the ruby talk around here lately has been over my head a bit :roll: , but I'd sit in an IRC channel while I'm browsing the forums, or writing code.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:19 pm

I have set up an IRC channel (#sketchup-dev on irc.freenode.net) for discussion of SketchUp development topics. I expect this to mostly be about Ruby, but other topics (eg, dynamic attributes) are also welcome. About the only thing that will cause banning is abusive behavior: MINSWAN (Matz is nice, so we are nice.)
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Jim » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:35 am

Code: Select all
wd=UI::WebDialog.new
wd.set_url "http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sketchup-dev"
wd.show


Or just click here.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:22 am

Alternatively, Mac users can use Adium or Colloquy (I use the latter) to do IRC.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Krisidious » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:38 am

I think you guys would like Vent better...http://www.ventrilo.com/
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:51 am

Krisidious wrote:Post by Krisidious on Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:38 pm
I think you guys would like Vent better...http://www.ventrilo.com/


Voice over IP certainly has its place, but I don't think this is one of them.

First, this is an international community, many of whose members do not have English as their first language. So, they may find it easier (and less error-prone) to communicate via text.

Second, a great deal of the material being discussed will be technical in nature and textual in format. Trying to dictate this over an audio link is not going to be fun (or productive).

Finally, by using a textual medium, we can log conversations, search them, etc. We could not do this if we were communicating via voice.

So, although I appreciate the suggestion (and welcome you to start up a voice-based forum, if you wish), I think I'll stick with IRC.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby thomthom » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:16 am

Yea, I'm with Rich here. With IRC (or any other text based medium) once choose when/if to reply. With voice you need to keep a conversation going constantly.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby thomthom » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:19 am

Rich - when the channel is registered - is it possible to set up a bot that upload chat logs to a website?
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Krisidious » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:48 am

very good points Rich... especially logging...
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Mike Lucey » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:05 pm

Mmmmm, and interesting possibility. I will have a chat with Tavi (TBD) and Coen about it and see what we could do here on SCF to introduce such a facility for members.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Jim » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:10 pm

I recommend pidgin for a IM client - it supports all major services (and irc.)

http://www.pidgin.im/
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:15 am

The IRC channel has been up for a few days now, but we've had very little traffic. Meanwhile, we've had 140+ views of this topic, so it's clear that some folks think the idea might have merit.

I think this is a "chicken and egg" situation: if everyone waits for the channel to catch on, it never will. So, if you're interested in having this resource available, please sign on for a few days, looking in from time to time.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby Chris Fullmer » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:14 am

:oops: I've already forgotten. I need to get into the habit. I'll try to make a link to login and put it on my desktop or something so I rememeber to be in there more often.
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby derei » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:36 am

Well, nice idea ! And if, somehow this would be made public on other environments, other than SCF, maybe it would attract more interested people.
I logged-in today, but it was empty :D
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby RichMorin » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:21 am

dereeei wrote:Well, nice idea! And if, somehow this would be made public on other environments, other than SCF, maybe it would attract more interested people.
I logged-in today, but it was empty :D


Again, if everyone waits for the channel to fill up before they're willing to stick around, it never will. I've been on the channel for several days now; I just leave a session going. I may not be actively watching it all the time, but I'll certainly get back to anyone whose message I see.

FYI, I also posted a note to sketchupruby@googlegroups.com; since we only want SketchUp developers, I'm not sure where else would be appropriate...
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Re: Would anyone like a developer's IRC channel?

Postby derei » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:34 am

RichMorin wrote: since we only want SketchUp developers, I'm not sure where else would be appropriate...

Well... more NEW Sketchup developers? :D ... the kind who didn't knew that they are Sketchup Developers until they hear about this ? :lol:
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