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by juju » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 am
Sekta wrote:The 2018 update for me was great...
I see your profile still reads SU 2013, care to update?
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by david_h » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:39 pm
pbacot wrote:For most cases, just making a copy of the parent component, somewhat removed works OK, no need to export, but I know what you mean, that would be a great help. (And I also agree, having the hot key set for "hide rest of model" is essential.)
I do have the short cut of course, but the visibility of nesting components is the issue.
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by pbacot » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:02 pm
david_h wrote:pbacot wrote:For most cases, just making a copy of the parent component, somewhat removed works OK, no need to export, but I know what you mean, that would be a great help. (And I also agree, having the hot key set for "hide rest of model" is essential.)
I do have the short cut of course, but the visibility of nesting components is the issue.
I understand. I would make a copy of the upper "parent" component that you wish to be able see as a reference--away from the rest of the model. You don't have to do it in a separate drawing (unless it's huge in MB).
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by david_h » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:51 pm
Yeah. . .that's the method I have been doing for these types of things, but still it would be nice to just have that option. Seems to me like a little thing. I guess not since it has'nt happened since ever.
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by juju » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:02 am
sfto1 wrote:Sketch 2018 was released Nov 14 SU 2017 Nov 7 SU 2016 Nov17
We're fast closing in on a year + 1 month since the last major release: - the anticipation is driving me nuts (not walnuts but coconuts, I hate coconuts),
- the lack of communication is giving me the heeby-jeebies, especially with the OSX only maintenance update released recently (but hey, at least that was done to help OSX based clients, good on you!),
- makes me want to scream as I've had to pay my maintenance blindly (which, as per historical release cycle, would have been after the new major release).
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by sfto1 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:40 pm
juju wrote:sfto1 wrote:Sketch 2018 was released Nov 14 SU 2017 Nov 7 SU 2016 Nov17
We're fast closing in on a year + 1 month since the last major release: - the anticipation is driving me nuts (not walnuts but coconuts, I hate coconuts),
- the lack of communication is giving me the heeby-jeebies, especially with the OSX only maintenance update released recently (but hey, at least that was done to help OSX based clients, good on you!),
- makes me want to scream as I've had to pay my maintenance blindly (which, as per historical release cycle, would have been after the new major release).
SU 2015 released 11/3/14 SU 2014 released 2/27/14 SU 2013 released 5/21/13 This is the longest between releases since 2013 was issued. SU has long since stopped being a hobby for me. It is one of several important tools in my professional work flow, so I'm always eager/interested to know what improvements might come thru this program, and what I need to do in order to incorporate such changes. Hopefully, the extra time has been due to additional native tools being added or high poly models being handled better - period  I would certainly upvote SU more if they gave us some ideas of where they want to go with this software. (instead of all the interpolating that happens in the forums) In years past, the wish lists (here anyway) have devolved into why something couldn't be done. I have been holding off on investing precious time in learning another way for modeling, but Chip Walters' "Blender" videos are looking more and more attractive. I might have a damn it moment, bite the bullet and start down the path of learning Blender too.
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by juju » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:02 pm
last day of voting folks, make 'em count!
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by medeek » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:41 pm
Aargh... this is total click bait.  But seriously, any updates on the release of SU 2019?
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by designo_84 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:46 pm
I hope Sketchup 2019 will handle more complex geometry plus some amazing updates to Layout.
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by JakeMM » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:27 pm
Small feature request, but I'd like the ability to show area in a different measurement to the drawing dimensions.
I'm not sure how things work in America, but in the UK and Europe detailed architectural work is drawn in millimetres, and square metres are used for areas.
When a client asks: how much paint do I need, seeing 8483472mm2 is quite confusing. I currently have to switch the drawing units, see that it's 8.5m2, then convert back to mm to continue modelling.
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by juju » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:29 pm
medeek wrote:Aargh... this is total click bait. 
haha, yeah, I find myself checking in here rather often medeek wrote:But seriously, any updates on the release of SU 2019?
No, unfortunately not. When I put the poll up I thought it will be rather useless to have it up for a month as the release was expected to be rather imminent, now that it is going on a year plus almost a month since the last major release I was tempted to change the poll time and open it indefinitely until the new major release is, well, released. Back to the poll, some of the results have been rather unexpected.
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by chrisjk » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:29 pm
juju wrote:medeek wrote:Aargh... this is total click bait. 
Back to the poll, some of the results have been rather unexpected.
I take it you mean the 16% who are excited? 
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by rv1974 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:40 pm
Meanwhile Whaat is teasing with some GAME CHAGER before the end of 2018. Highly likely there will be x10 more features than in SU19 (sadly)
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by medeek » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:24 pm
I have talked to some people (and I can't say who) about a month ago and at that point SU 2019 was still being run through its paces with the BETA testers. So my guess is that the release is imminent, but its kind of like predicating the stock market, lots of unknowns.
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by sfto1 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 pm
rv1974 wrote:Meanwhile Whaat is teasing with some GAME CHAGER before the end of 2018. Highly likely there will be x10 more features than in SU19 (sadly)
Where is Whaat's teaser posted?
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by rv1974 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:04 pm
Just some hints in FB
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by utiler » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:45 pm
JakeMM wrote:Small feature request, but I'd like the ability to show area in a different measurement to the drawing dimensions.
I'm not sure how things work in America, but in the UK and Europe detailed architectural work is drawn in millimetres, and square metres are used for areas.
When a client asks: how much paint do I need, seeing 8483472mm2 is quite confusing. I currently have to switch the drawing units, see that it's 8.5m2, then convert back to mm to continue modelling.
YES!!! This is very very annoying...
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by pbacot » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:19 am
U.S.:
Practically anything can be shown as square feet (which SketchUp defaults to), but I guess some civil engineers and scientists have the same problem as in the EU. When going to volumes cubic yards is preferred for some uses.
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by freebs » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:41 pm
I have been holding off on investing precious time in learning another way for modeling, but Chip Walters' "Blender" videos are looking more and more attractive. I might have a damn it moment, bite the bullet and start down the path of learning Blender too.
Before you even contemplate that one, you should take a look at FormZ ( http://www.formz.com/ ). It's a true solid modeler, unlike sketchup, which is a 'bubble' modeler. (Anything you make is already a solid and you hollow it out, where necessary). It's way closer to sketchup's skill-set than Blender and it's designed for Architectural work. Blender does have snaps and can do 'exact' lengths/values, but it has the feel of an afterthought when you use it... sort of like 3dsMax where the scale of the object doesn't necessarily match the scale of what your scene is. It also natively handles NURBS (similar to Rhino3d). Plus, they've got a Christmas sale on, according to the email I received from them today. (I used it in Arch school for free, but use sketchup at the office, because that's what they have). There's also a vray for FormZ, which is nice.
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by ntxdave » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:22 pm
Took a quick look and appears it would be a far easier transition than trying to go to Blender. Looks like it has many built in features which require plugins in SU.
Any feedback on performance (especially if you have high poly models)?
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by function » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 pm
utiler wrote:JakeMM wrote:Small feature request, but I'd like the ability to show area in a different measurement to the drawing dimensions.
I'm not sure how things work in America, but in the UK and Europe detailed architectural work is drawn in millimetres, and square metres are used for areas.
When a client asks: how much paint do I need, seeing 8483472mm2 is quite confusing. I currently have to switch the drawing units, see that it's 8.5m2, then convert back to mm to continue modelling.
YES!!! This is very very annoying...
use Matt666's Toggle Units plugin. It's very useful and it solves the area display problem too. https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?p ... ggle_Unitswhere is sketchup 2019!? too many people are spending time making youtube videos for their channel instead of working on the program 
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by Glenn at home » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 pm
freebs wrote: Before you even contemplate that one, you should take a look at FormZ ...
Agreed. The built-in tools that don't come with SU are impressive. The stair tool is a good one. Not perfect but easy too use. The built-in Subdivision and Subdivision Edit tools are also great. Some of the editing and controls are a bit different as compared to SU. The real plus is the option of 3 levels of product. They have the Pro with ALL the bells and whistles, Jr which has a slimmed down tool set and then a free offering. All 3 are available for ANY use what-so-ever! So yes, you can use Free for commercial work if you want to (shock!). The Pro also has a Layout tools as well. All 3 will import DWG files but only the paid versions can export DWG.
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by fredo6 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:08 pm
JakeMM wrote:Small feature request, but I'd like the ability to show area in a different measurement to the drawing dimensions. When a client asks: how much paint do I need, seeing 8483472mm2 is quite confusing. I currently have to switch the drawing units, see that it's 8.5m2, then convert back to mm to continue modelling.
You could try FredoTools::ReportLabelArea, which includes reports on areas by material, layer, etc..., as well as an interactive tool to display areas by hovering over the model. All with choice of units, regardless of the model units. You can also label face(s) easily with their area. ReportLabelArea - Reporting.png ReportLabelArea - Browsing.png ReportLabelArea - Labelling.png
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by alpro » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:37 am
Ok my guess is Dec 17th
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by tktechie » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:40 pm
Aaaaaand The 17th has come and gone! sad
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by ntxdave » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:48 pm
Can you say Happy New Year? At least that is my latest guess. 
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by Pixero » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:05 pm
I just got a SketchUp newsletter for December without any mention of a new version.
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by samnorth » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:54 pm
SU2019 in...2019 Surely it'll have to be SU2020 to be current? 
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by david_h » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 pm
Pixero wrote:I just got a SketchUp newsletter for December without any mention of a new version.
They still do the newsletter? I haven't gotten one of those in ages! I don't remember unsubscribing. Unless it's a different one.
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by mpacey » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:27 pm
I'm just going to keep saying tomorrow, every day, until it happens.
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