creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

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creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:36 pm

hi

i wonder if anyone knows of a standalone cloth simulator?
i would like to create a plaid that lays over a chair, like the one in the attached image.

i have tried using artisan, but i'm finding it quite hard (but maybe not impossible) to create something similar.

therefore, does anyone now of a plugin that can simulate cloth in sketchup, or some kind of standalone simulator that imports obj files (the chair) and exports obj files?

any input is very welcome :-)
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby pilou » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:06 pm

Drape CPoints by TIG can maybe help you!

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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:40 pm

hi pilou

thanks - drape cpoints looks very interesting. i will test that out.

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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby faust07 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Maybe you can also use SketchyPhysics for it. Possibly there is this technique once for MSPhysics. This example is made with models from 3D-Warehouse and the plugin "SketchyPhysics" (only up to SketchUp 2016, 32 bit).
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Rich O Brien » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:06 pm

Cool!
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:01 pm

hi faust

that is so cool - i have tried to install MSPhysics in sketchup 2017, and it seems to run - do i need more than that?

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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:05 pm

and how the ..... have you made that fantastic cloth? :-)
i don't see that as a material type...
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby HornOxx » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:46 pm

faust07 wrote:Maybe you can also use SketchyPhysics for it...


:o WOW !!!
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby solo » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:52 pm

What trickery have we here? :mrgreen:

So damned cool.
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby cuttingedge » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:16 pm

(sketchy Physics) didnt know that it has that capability at all .they've been sitting on my toolbar for a long while....
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby pilou » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:16 pm

do i need more than that?


You must have also AMS Library!
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:19 pm

Ok. Have that.

I was just surprised that it works in sketchup 2017 / 64 bit.

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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby faust07 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:06 pm

As I wrote, this runs only with "SketchyPysics" up to the SketchUp version 2016 32 bit. It still does not work with "MSPhysics" (SketchUp 2017, 64 bit). But the author of the plugin (Anton S) has something similar on his ToDoList.
The assignment of material is only possible after reaching the intended position of the cloth and storing a copy of the model during the pausing simulation.
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby faust07 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:28 pm

and here is the model, if you want to play...
The mesh count of the cloth can be increased by copying the elements accordingly and adjusting the numbering of the matrix ...
Two very interesting techniques have been used: self-linking groups and the creation of a surface following the simulation.
The model is a little bit modified by me (sorry, don't know the name of the author and can't find it on 3D-warehouse, only copies...)
If this could be translated for MS Physics one day - Hallelujah :enlight:
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Anton_S » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 pm

Actually this can be done with MSPhysics. All this does is creates a bunch of speres linked by BallAndSocket joints. Then it uses a script to move cloth vertices to new position. This is artificial cloth and has its downsides, primarily the performance. But I can modify that small script for compatibility with MSPhysics.
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby faust07 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:37 pm

Ingenious, I've known it... Thanks, Anton! :fro:
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby Jorgensen » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:52 pm

So it might work with msphysics?

I hope as I don't have access to su 2016 anymore.
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Re: creating a plaid on a chair - cloth simulator?

Postby cuttingedge » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:15 am

a proof of concept to creating like "Marvelous Designer " plugin perhaps. Are we still decades away from there?
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