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SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:47 pm

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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby fredo6 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:12 pm

For Fredo6 plugins:

Due to the new security mechanism introduced in SU2016, it is strongly advised to upgrade to the latest versions of my plugins published in the PluginStore.

Previous versions of the plugins should run in the Security mode "UNRESTRICTED", but only the latest version will run in other Security modes.

Note that these latest versions also run with previous versions of Sketchup.

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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby srx » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:36 pm

Is it for real? I can not find anything about the version nor new features or similar on site...Strange.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Rich O Brien » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:39 pm

It's real. Just a staggered soft launch.

It's out.


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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby otb designworks » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:43 pm

Click on What's New, just under the big red Download Sketchup button.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby srx » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:52 pm

Oh, thanks! It is not so visible, as if there is nothing to see there
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Mark H. » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:01 am

Hey guys,

As always, we do a bunch of testing on our website when we launch a new version. You should see more info on our blog and website pretty soon. But yes, it's real!

Mark, on behalf of the SketchUp team
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby solo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:53 am

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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby pbacot » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:21 am

Some nice improvements, though not the overwhelming feature additions some might look for.

this footnote will make my life easier: "*Bonus: we upgraded LayOut’s PDF exporter. Now, LayOut’s PDF exports are about 10-15x smaller. High five!"

And this is definitely an answer to Wishlist requests: "We’re proud to announce our first step towards an extension ecosystem for LayOut. Using this new API developers can now create and customize .layout files from SketchUp models."
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby cadmunkey » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:41 am

An embarrassingly small new feature set, not sure how they'll justify the upgrade price this time...
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Stu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:44 am

'An embarrassingly small new feature set, not sure how they'll justify the upgrade price this time'

Well maybe it's just me.....but I'm not even mildly tempted
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby pilou » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:05 am

Version Make seems work also! :fro:

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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby utiler » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:18 am

PDF exporter is a good one!!
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby utiler » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:21 am

Oh, and the re-work of how layers can be manipulated in LO, much needed!!!!
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby ashscott » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:59 am

Yeah, exporter upgrade is great work. I think that the updated inferencing engine will come in super handy on some of my engineering projects where I'm trying to align multiple items that are a long way apart:


Also, the reporter was sorely in need of update. If its as good as the cut list plugin then I'll be happy. Unfortunately I just finished writing about the built-in reporter's deficiencies so may have to redact my words.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby kaas » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:15 am

I like:
* the speed increase in some of my ruby scripts
* you can leave the Outliner open when running ruby scripts. Up to v2015 that could make your ruby go very slow.

I have to get used to:
* the tray - Must read the manual. I don't want my materials docked. I want them where I want.

I had hoped:
* saving a file with 'redefine thumbnail on save' still takes a lot of time. Have to keep that one disabled.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby JQL » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:52 am

kaas wrote:* you can leave the Outliner open when running ruby scripts. Up to v2015 that could make your ruby go very slow.


It still runs much slower... Where did you find differences? If it's in autohide the problem disappears as outliner... autohides
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby kaas » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:43 pm

JQL wrote:It still runs much slower... Where did you find differences? If it's in autohide the problem disappears as outliner... autohides

I tested it with a custom stencil plugin. Lots of calculations. It had just 1% difference in time with the outliner open or closed. (406 vs 390 seconds). In v2015, the same took 800 seconds so thats quite a speed increase. Have to do more investigations to see what/where/why
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby ashscott » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:46 pm

kaas wrote:I tested it with a custom stencil plugin


Banksy, is that you?
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby juju » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:55 pm

amongst other things, the talk of LO's C API has me excited to see what enhancements can be made to LO...
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby kaas » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:01 pm

ashscott wrote:Banksy, is that you?
I wish :-)
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby TIG » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:21 pm

As Fredo said a few posts earlier - all current v2015-compatible Extensions/Plugins RBZs should, install, load and run OK in v2016 - BUT you must have the Preferences > Extensions Policy set to 'Unrestricted' [the shipped default].
If you change to another restricted policy, then only 'signed' extensions/plugins will load...
So it's highly recommended that you do not copy files from earlier Plugins folders [as it always was!], and that you get the latest versions of ALL of your extensions/plugins' RBZs, either from the EWH, or the SketchUcation PluginStore, or another trusted developer's site - NEVER use hooky-copies from dubious sites - they will either fail or contain malware, and harm the authors IP and maybe income etc...

Currently all of the authors are getting their RBZ files signed by Trimble.
Fredo has already had all of his 'signed' - they are now all available from the PluginStore.
I have also had several of mine 'signed' - these are also in the PluginStore - others will follow soon.
Those RBZs I have also adjusted for other authors in the PluginStore [like Didier] will also get 'signed' versions available in due course.

The test-version of the SketchUcation Toolset - aka 'ExtensionStore3' - was released a few days ago and this is already 'signed', in anticipation of the v2016 release.

The 'Unrestricted' policy will almost certainly not be around forever, so you need signed RBZs installing wherever they are available.
So probably one day 'unsigned' [or mis-signed] versions will become un-loadable - although there will be a [yet to be explained] 'developer-mode' to allow authors to test their new or modified code before hey have it 'signed' and published...
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Pixero » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:10 pm

The 'Unrestricted' policy will almost certainly not be around forever, so you need signed RBZs installing wherever they are available


In that case how will authors be able to test scripts without signing them?
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Dave R » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:00 pm

Pixero wrote:
The 'Unrestricted' policy will almost certainly not be around forever, so you need signed RBZs installing wherever they are available


In that case how will authors be able to test scripts without signing them?


TIG wrote:...although there will be a [yet to be explained] 'developer-mode' to allow authors to test their new or modified code before hey have it 'signed' and published...
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby juju » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:49 pm

Can someone explain to me the need to lock down the plugins / extensions? If you're not sure about the plugins / extensions and where you downloaded them from, surely you have prior knowledge that something could go wrong/break?

By locking down the plugins / extensions, are there any guarantees that there won't be any of these that clash with another? If that is the case, great, if not then I don't quite understand the need for the lock-down.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby smuncky » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:00 pm

Can't believe this is finally fixed.

“Fixed the "File currently locked by another user" message that was seen when opening a file via double click when the Preview Pane in Windows Explorer was open.”
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby slbaumgartner » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:48 pm

juju wrote:Can someone explain to me the need to lock down the plugins / extensions? If you're not sure about the plugins / extensions and where you downloaded them from, surely you have prior knowledge that something could go wrong/break?

By locking down the plugins / extensions, are there any guarantees that there won't be any of these that clash with another? If that is the case, great, if not then I don't quite understand the need for the lock-down.


The new signing facility has a lot more to do with protecting developers' intellectual property than with preventing careless developers from clashes, or with preventing malware. It will still be true that the only safe route is to download extensions and plugins only from known, reliable sites such as the Extension Warehouse, sketchUcation store, smustard, and vendors own sites. Time will tell what ways malicious people can find to tamper with the signatures and new encoding, so the safe practices remain the same.
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby Pixero » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:11 pm

I read this in a post at the Thea forum. Is it true?

Information from a British reseller;-
Single user licence - once your 2016 licence is authorised, your 2015 licence will not be able to be installed on any new computers (but will continue to run as an existing installation).

If you have an existing:

Network licence: Authorising your new 2016 licence on a single machine starts a 60 day countdown, after which 2015 will be disabled on all machines. If you wish to test version 2016, it is highly recommended you use the trial version to do so.

We cannot reactivate a 2015 licence once it becomes inactive after the 60 day period
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby TIG » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:33 pm

Pixero wrote:
The 'Unrestricted' policy will almost certainly not be around forever, so you need signed RBZs installing wherever they are available


In that case how will authors be able to test scripts without signing them?
They promise a 'developer-policy' to allow that - but no details thus far...
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Re: SketchUp 2016 is here....

Postby numerobis » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:59 pm

http://www.sketchup.com/products/sketch ... ew-in-2016

Really?!? So, where are the new features? :shock:

Another Layout update and a few more and colored inference options for SU? (where most of them are already possible now) And Trimble Connect as top new feature? Are they serious?
I don't use Layout and i don't need any cloud- or teamwork functions. Referenced warehouse models?!? Maybe i don't understand this... directly referenced from the warehouse? Why should i want to do this? I did use a few warehouse models over the years, yes. But i always had to clean and prepare them first in a different file.
And wow! New textures, so now i don't need my own libraries anymore. I think the last time i opened the internal libraries was maybe in v4.
Are these funky new, dockable palettes now all at the useless bigger size like the Photo Match window or are they scalable?

Always good to see when the important problems are getting fixed first! :lol:

This can't be real... And i thought it couldn't get worse after the 2013 and 2014 updates.
Now I'm glad i forgot to renew my subscription this summer! Unbelievable...

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