How to make a waterfall?

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How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:33 pm

i need a better way of doing a waterfall in SUp than just coloring a plane.
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the picture shows the situation: a large sheet of water falls from a top pool into a lower pool.

any ideas on how to do it? the model will be exported to be rendered in another app, but i would wish it look believable in SUp.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Gaieus » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:41 pm

Especially if rendered, I'd place a little curvy face (curved at the top as the water starts falling) in front of that wall so that when it is rendered (with hopefully a better texture), it can be partly transparent and the wall visible behind it.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby remus » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:18 pm

something like this?

i'll do you a quick tut if its the sort of thing your looking for.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:23 pm

remus wrote:something like this?

i'll do you a quick tut if its the sort of thing your looking for.

it definitely is. i would appreciate it if you could do that. thanks.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby juju » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:49 pm

How about creating two squiggly lines (top and bottom of waterfall) and using the skin ruby on it?
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby remus » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:56 pm

here you go, feel free to ask questions as its a bit rough around the edges, as tuts go.

edit: the tut basically does what juju's describing.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby alpro » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:08 pm

Edson, here's a quick idea. skp attached so you can play around till you get the effect you want. Sorry couldn't attach skp as it was 577 KB zipped. If you're still interested I can e-mail it to you but it seems like remus did a nice job.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Joe Wood » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:26 pm

Maybe this might help Edson? Alan Fraser made this falling water for my tsukabai. Check out how he did the splashes :-) with a little tree.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby alpro » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:31 pm

Just had a look at your tut remus, very good info. I rarely use any rubies. What I did was very simple, draw a sqiggly line, copy it and close the ends in to form a face, draw another line for the water path, use the follow me tool. That's what I love about SU, so many ways to accomplish something.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:22 pm

thanks all for the information and for taking your time to help me. as soon as the compettiton is over i shall post the results i obtained with your help.

regards.

p.s.: the kids who work for me are amazed at the generosity and resorcefulness of the members of SCF. no questions go unanswered here!
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby tomsdesk » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:31 pm

Edson, this is fun: my answer was to set the water texture to "projected" then exturd the face (I also selected some to the resulting vertical faces and set them to not cast shadows). With a splash image (I just saw a link to a couple of free ones here a couple of days ago but can't find it now) at the bottom and some work at the top (like Mike's...could you please post that on Kelley's site for me, thanks a bunch), then some scale squeezing like real water...would look pretty good?
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby tomsdesk » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:33 pm

BTW Mike...how'd you do that?
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:46 pm

thanks, tom. very good. another sound way to go about it.

we are actually putting all the ideas together to create our own water.

by the way, did you forget about those poplars i teased you to do?
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby 3eighty » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:42 pm

Over in the 3d world, we make waterfalls out of terrains turned sideways and then a texture added...If you would go get the free copy of Bryce 5.5 (DAZ), you could make great falls and import into Sketchup...
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby alpro » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:44 pm

Still playing around. See what you started Edson?, now I have to add some patio stones, some greenery, maybe some outdoor furniture.
@ Tom, I explained it a few posts above yours, wanted to post a skp but file was to big. Will post some screen grabs, it's pretty simple though.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Frederik » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:48 pm

It looks really great, Mike... ;)
What program did you use for the renders..??

And - can I ask you to send the 'skippy' to me by mail..?? frederik [at] kerkythea.net..?? ;)
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby alpro » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:48 pm

3eighty could you post a link for the free Bryce 5.5, I couldn't find it on the DAZ site. TIA

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:53 pm

yes, mike, quite a nice response. i have sent you a PM with my email so that you can send me the skippy when you are done.

cheers.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby alpro » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:55 pm

Thanks Frederick, I used Podium. BTW, I'm looking forward to the KT release, haven't really used KT much because I was such a rendering newbie but the new release looks awesome. Will mail you the skp, can't believe this has generated such interest as it seems pretty easy.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby tomsdesk » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:56 pm

Edson, no didn't forget...though I do try too (I started a really complicated rendition and figured out how to make them reasonable size-wise, about a meg, and close-up good looking, but now remains the tedium of work to complete :`) I'll get there, and hopefully they'll be worth the wait.

Mike, no limit on Kelly's server...but if you'd rather, and have the time, please email to me too: tomsdrop (at) swbell (dot) net
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Frederik » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:58 pm

Thanks, Mike! :D
Much appreciated..!!
And we also look forward to the new release... And don't worry about things... We have made plenty of video- and pdf-tutorials which will guide you through things... ;)
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Alan Fraser » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:05 pm

You can go a long way just in SU by using some png files. The surface tension will tend to pull the ends in slightly too.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Frederik » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:11 pm

That's right, Alan...
But unfortunately you can't get a real nice render with these "manipulated" models... ;)
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby 3eighty » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:39 pm

Alpro> (And all others)..Here is the link for Bryce 5.5..Got any questions feel free to ask..
http://www.download.com/Bryce/3000-6677_4-10696716.html :thumb: Seems you will have to type the link in..If it doesn't work again..Simply do a Google for "Daz Bryce 5.5 free"
and the link is there..Sorry
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby solo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:37 am

Interesting challenge this, I have done water with ripples but never a waterfall.
I will give it a go after my current project. (SU my favourite toy)
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby solo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:42 pm

Okay I found some time this Saturday morning to play with my favorite app.

First a quick setup screen capture of the hidden lines.




And then the rendering with bumped textures.




If I took more time with the mesh manipulation, texturing and vegetation layout I am sure I could reach a higher level of realism, but this is just a waterfall test and I got work to do :cry:
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby fbartels » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:28 pm

Pete,

Thanks for sharing the stages. It's quite helpful in getting a better understanding how you are going from SketchUp to your beautiful renders.

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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby Edson » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:28 pm

thanks, pete. this is a helluva waterfall.

with all the lessons i was given in this topic i'd better live up to them and present my own soon.
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby tinanne » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:07 pm

This is great info guys. I have a waterfall/water slide project that I never finished (client ran out of money :(). So I am getting inspired :)
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Re: How to make a waterfall?

Postby solo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:24 pm

Night shot

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