The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

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The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby john2 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:07 am

in autocad while selecting a lot of objects we often do a step that makes them deselect all. there's a command - called "PREVIOUS" which selects the previous objects. This issue also happens in sketchup but i don't know of any command like this "Previous" that selects the objects that were last selected.

I have to select all objects once again which wastes time. is there a workaround?
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:16 am

And if you click the last object selected of the multiple selection with Shift by CTRL ? ;)
(try all combinaison depending how you had selected or select your objects)
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby john2 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:42 am

Pilou wrote:And if you click the last object selected of the multiple selection with Shift by CTRL ? ;)
(try all combinaison depending how you had selected or select your objects)

that doesnt work
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:06 pm

Keep Shift or CTRL pressed on the same time :ugeek:
Release or not...try all combinaisons!

All makes that and that works very fine! ;)
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:14 pm

Maybe this plugin: viewtopic.php?t=38431 ?
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby john2 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:16 pm

Pilou wrote:Keep Shift or CTRL pressed on the same time :ugeek:
Release or not...try all combinaisons!

All makes that and that works very fine! ;)

uh what i wanted pilou that after selection has been done if i press at a blank space..my objects get deselected. in autocad if i type the word previous, the objects that were selected previously get selected. in a nutshell autocad remembers what i last selected and selects them. it saves my selection in memory.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:22 pm

john2 wrote:uh what i wanted pilou that after selection has been done if i press at a blank space..my objects get deselected. in autocad if i type the word previous, the objects that were selected previously get selected. in a nutshell autocad remembers what i last selected and selects them. it saves my selection in memory.


You know what - I want such a function myself... If the Selection Observer behave reliably it might not be that hard... will have to see. Before SU8 it was FUBAR - but I think it should be acting better now.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:25 pm

You are not in in Autocad but result will be the same!
Multiple selection in SU is made with SHIFT Pressed (if one object is yet selected it will be deselect)
I don't see any difficulty :)
And even you click on a blank space just reselect all with a box selection then deselect the objects not wanted!
And that is not obliged the last one ;)

And try also one click, double click, triple click !

Ps But if Thomthom want to make the trick you are in good hands :enlight:
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:38 pm

Pilu, he's not asking about how to add to a selection, but how to restore a selection. For instance, if you have a selection and click on empty model space everything is deselected - sometimes that is not what you wanted and would like to restore the selection.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby andybot » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:47 pm

In the interim, while thomthom creates some more amazing plugins (and I don't mean that sarcastically, his work is outstanding) have you tried the selection toys plugin? It makes selecting and deselecting specific geometry types a breeze.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:00 pm

he's not asking about how to add to a selection

Yes I had full understood he wants a sort of history selection for solve the click on a empty space ;)

There is so numerous possibility of speedy selections, and your tools selection ;)
so the click on a free space is not a such drama :)
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:07 pm

Some times is it - when you've carefully crafted a complex selection where automated tools cannot be used.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby pilou » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:13 pm

In this case you must be never with numerous objects for avoid that! ;)
If a complex selection is needing that want to say that organisation of objects is not optimum from the beginning!
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:18 pm

That might be - but it is what I have some times when I take over models made by others. Or import geoemtry from AutoCAD or Revit. In which case I often need to carefully select and separate specific elements so I can regroup it.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:36 pm

Ok - got something of a prototype working. Cycles through the last five selection sets. Though, it will probably have to be modified to work with OSX - as OSX can have multiple open models, selections might run into crossover issues. I'm working on a deadline this weekend so I don't have much more time until next week to look at that.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby Jean Lemire » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:52 pm

I folks.

If you plan on doing a very complex selection and are afraid that you may loose it after an accidental click on empty space or whatever, like letting go of the SHIFT key, etc, I have the following trick: create a temporary group with some object or objects that are easy to rapidly select. Then, continue to select objects, cut them, open the temporary group and Paste it place. Get out of the group context and repeat the procedure.

When the group contains all the objects you want, enter its context and do what you need to do. The fun part is that if anything goes wrong, you can undo and you still have the group that still contains all your carefully selected objects.

When completely done with this selection (group), explode it.

This may seems like a lot of work but, believe me, the little time wasted using this trick will be much less than the time lost trying to reselect and rerereselect and ... etc.

A model that is well stuctured with components and named groups can also be easily managed with the Outliner.

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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby arail1 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:38 pm

This is one area where I geatly prefer AutoCAD's method. In AutoCAD you can keep selecting without de-selecting objects by accident. To de-select you hold down the Shift key. Much better than SketchUp.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:20 pm

weeeell... "better" is very subjective on this matter. I could easily take your statement and flip SketchUp and AutoCAD. I don't like the way of selecting in AC. But I do like that it let you restore previous selection.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby mitcorb » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:47 pm

So far as I know, it (Autocad) won't let you COPY previous. And don't try to do large selections for move or stretch and then zoom in for precision box selection, because in this case all that is selected has to be fully within display.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby Bob James » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:12 pm

thomthom wrote:Ok - got something of a prototype working. I'm working on a deadline this weekend so I don't have much more time until next week to look at that.

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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby andybot » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:20 pm

mitcorb wrote:So far as I know, it (Autocad) won't let you COPY previous. And don't try to do large selections for move or stretch and then zoom in for precision box selection, because in this case all that is selected has to be fully within display.


Um, quick ACAD tutorial.. make a selection. hit Esc twice. invoke copy command. type "p" (for "previous"). Enter. (now you have your previous selection.) (you can do this in any command, including "ch")

Now as for Thomthom - you can really make a gizmo to choose between earlier selections!?! :shock: :sketchstatic:
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:46 pm

I have a version working already. When you activate the command it cycles through the last five selections.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby john2 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:25 am

thomthom wrote:I have a version working already. When you activate the command it cycles through the last five selections.


when are u gonna release this??
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:19 am

I need to check how it acts under OSX. There could be an issue there - where you have multiple models open in the same process. Under Windows it is not an issue as there is just one model per process.
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby john2 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:51 am

thomthom wrote:I need to check how it acts under OSX. There could be an issue there - where you have multiple models open in the same process. Under Windows it is not an issue as there is just one model per process.




i have windows..yippee... so upload the windows version dude..for the windows people :D
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Re: The PREVIOUS command like AutoCAD ??

Postby thomthom » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:21 am

Allrightallright - for the Windows people: viewtopic.php?f=323&t=42469
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