The "Duh!" thread (aka the Doh! thread)

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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby thomthom » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:39 pm

Boofredlay wrote:One for me was when Gaieus was from Gaieus' talk at the Basecamp (I saw the video) and using the rotate tool.

Yes! So did I. I've always built these extra constructs of faces and lines to align the rotate tool first. When I saw the video I thought he did some dark voodoo magic.
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby david_h » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:47 pm

I think the Rotate/Drag thing was new to V5. Could be wrong tho. Anyway. . . I"ve been using SU since V2 and didn't learn of that til then anyway.

EDIT. . .oh! oh! my duh moment this week! (yes they come that often. . .)

I discovered a "filter" in the Shortcuts box to search for the particular command.
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Ecuadorian » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:55 pm

That method of rotation is in the introductory videos for V6 and were posted in 2007. This means one should never dismiss learning materials aimed at newbies, as there could be a trick or two one doesn't know yet. Kind of when I learned that the word "people" is plural and not singular... just before graduating from College :? .
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Gaieus » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:04 pm

Ecuadorian wrote:Kind of when I learned that the word "people" is plural and not singular... just before graduating from College :? .

:roflmao:
That's good (me as a foreign speaker of English fully understanding thet).

But all in all,I know what you mean. There's still a lot - if not other than little tricks of workflow at least - of this program!

(And I love this topic - maybe it should be made sticky in the Newbie forum!)
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby thomthom » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:25 pm

I just had a vision of the planet where you hear "Duh!" shouted across the globe, with little speech bubbles to accompany, as people read this thread...
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Gaieus » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:28 pm

And they also keep banging their heads to the walls... :roll:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby david_h » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:43 pm

did you know that if you expand the component window with the little + sign and drag your custom component to the window below it saves it in the component directory for future use????? D'UH!
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Daniel » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:33 pm

I can remember two "duh" moments for myself. I had always known to make multiple copies in a row, to just type in the number of copies wanted followed by an "x". But it wasn't until reading the SU for Dummies book last year that you could make multiple copies evenly spaced in a given length by typing in the number followed by a slash. I felt stupid for not figuring that out.

My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby xrok1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:36 pm

David_H wrote:Ive had so many Duh Moments I don't know where to start . . .or rather D'oh!
I have still so many yet to experience I am sure. Maybe you can help me add to my D'uh Collection

I have never gotten into the OUtliner but the one thing I wish I knew how to do with it. . .if it can be done is in working with Nexted blocks and components in "Hide rest of Model" mode that you could have the group in which a component is nested visible but still have the rest of the model invisible? comprenez-vous? Or maybe there is a Ruby for this??? please oh please oh please!Also. . .. we need a little smilie that says "D'UH! and D'OH!"


it would probably be better for your outer group to be a component instead of a group, with the other groups inside. that way it would work the way you want with all the internal groups visible when editing them through this outer component. ;)
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Gaieus » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:08 pm

Daniel wrote:...My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with veersion 7?).

Thanks Daniel, you saved me from another embarrassing "Duh"! :D
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby broomstick » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:18 pm

thomthom wrote:A more recent Duh I had:

Being able to select only a few edges from a face and offset them instead of the whole face.


I had this one today!!
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby pmiller » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:20 pm

Probably the best SU duh!:

viewtopic.php?f=153&t=1545
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Daniel » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:20 pm

Your welcome, Gaieus. I don't remember anybody mentioning it. Perhaps we've all become accustomed to modeling above the origin. Maybe I was distracted by Remus' bike porn thread (for the record, it is NOT what the title implies, and I was VERY disappointed).
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby sintra » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:26 pm

i still don't know how to type in more than one dimension when using the tape measure tool


So can anybody put me out of my missery please :lol:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby xrok1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:41 pm

how many dimensions do you expect from a tape measure? lets see there's length... ... and ... ... :oops:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby paulside » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:54 pm

Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! :roflmao:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby xrok1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:56 pm

specially if its a jpg of a 3D model :roflmao:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby sintra » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:02 pm

hmmm sorry thought you could type in several figures to set out many dimensions :?
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby xrok1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:09 pm

the duh moment that turned out to just be a der! moment. :roflmao:

but seriously you can copy your construction lines with (ctrl) copy, and then say *10 or whatever so you get 10 equally spaced. if that helps?
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby david_h » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:34 pm

paulside wrote:Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! :roflmao:


Not being able to orbit in JPGS only illustrates their limitions. If we were an advanced society at all we would be able to this. :mrgreen:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby thomthom » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:38 pm

paulside wrote:Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! :roflmao:

Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..? :oops:
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Yup

Postby Ecuadorian » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:43 pm

Still happens to me a lot... I press Ctrl+Z in the middle of an operation and end up losing some work done.

And I often find myself trying to "mirror" things with Ctrl+M, as in ArchiCAD, only to remember that I should have clicked on the mirror button of the SCF Powerbar instead.

EDIT: Now I understand what thomthom was talking about... a REAL pen. A big Duh! for me.
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby david_h » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:45 pm

xrok1 wrote:
David_H wrote:Ive had so many Duh Moments I don't know where to start . . .or rather D'oh!
I have still so many yet to experience I am sure. Maybe you can help me add to my D'uh Collection

I have never gotten into the OUtliner but the one thing I wish I knew how to do with it. . .if it can be done is in working with Nexted blocks and components in "Hide rest of Model" mode that you could have the group in which a component is nested visible but still have the rest of the model invisible? comprenez-vous? Or maybe there is a Ruby for this??? please oh please oh please!Also. . .. we need a little smilie that says "D'UH! and D'OH!"


it would probably be better for your outer group to be a component instead of a group, with the other groups inside. that way it would work the way you want with all the internal groups visible when editing them through this outer component. ;)


Thanks for the feedback, but I dont think that helps me, and I realize I probablyI didn't explain myself very well. I would want to able to keep the geometry of the component visible while I am working on an internal nested block/component but the main model is kept hidden? Better?
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby jeff hammond » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:47 pm

paulside wrote:Come on, Own up, how many of us have tried to orbit a jpg ! :roflmao:


i try to orbit everything on my computer after a long SU session.. web pages etc...

it's like jumping on a trampoline for a while.. once you get back on solid ground, it takes a few minutes to readjust..
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Re: Yup

Postby NewOne » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:53 pm

Ecuadorian wrote:And I often find myself trying to "mirror" things with Ctrl+M, as in ArchiCAD, only to remember that I should have clicked on the mirror button of the SCF Powerbar instead.

What mirror button are you talking about? :?: :D I olny use for mirroring Mirror_31.rb plugin. Is there something else? (and this one sometime crashes sketchup, i could not figure when yet)
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Ecuadorian » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:55 pm

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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Chris Fullmer » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:02 am

David_H wrote:Also. . .. we need a little smilie that says "D'UH! and D'OH!"


Well, its not a smily on the forum, but Jim did make a plugin:

http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... utton.html

EDIT: Oops, Paul already beat me to this last page....
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby ely862me » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:15 am

i did find myself zoom ing out or orbit on a recorded desktop video taken while working in sketchup
a big d*oh when i discovered the scale tool(at the beginning i made a house and i tried to insert some components and my house was too small ..i abandoned the project :lol:)
another one when i discovered the smooth operation
another when i discovered the components(working just at one half of a car)
and the biggest when i discovered the render engines...

They are lot more wich i don t remember now!
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Gaieus » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:24 am

thomthom wrote:...
Ever tried to undo a wrong stroke with the pen..? :oops:

Or with a girlfriend? :roll:
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Re: The "Duh!" thread

Postby Chris Fullmer » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:25 am

Daniel wrote:My second moment was embarrassing. I gave a short seminar to the local community design center on using sketchup, and I was explaining how SU will not cast shadows below the point of origin (default ground plane), and open a model to illustrate it, only to discover that SU had apparently fixed that (with version 7?).


Version 6 also let you cast shadows below the ground plane. At least the copy I'm running does?

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