Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

[juju]

In case anyone is interested, Trimble came to my office and did an in depth series that will be highlighted in much more detail in the upcoming book I'm co-authoring with Matt Donley.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... codO8aATrh

excellent! Thanks for the video link...

now stop wasting time on the internet and finish the book already, take my money dammit!

[JasonWD]

but I use my model and then either pull it apart and save scenes

Yeah, I was hoping to avoid this

I would be super interested to know if you find a solution to this...

I have always been in a position that I need to get drawings out so fast that I just do it the manual way!

Normally my furniture drawings have a Furniture_exploded.skp file next to them that I pull all the elements of the model out (for instance) 500mm to get the right look.

JDUL-D005A Cashdesk.pdf

Also this kind of thing (can't find the layout file it is attached to). Odd that it has notes in SU for me!

Shelf Supports01 explode.jpg

[driven]

http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?listtype=2%26amp;author=116%26amp;category=0

hi jason, have you tried this one...

[JasonWD]

http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?listtype=2%26amp;author=116%26amp;category=0

hi jason, have you tried this one...

I havn't for a while, but yes!

I think the problem is I like to show exploded stuff in Perspective and that creates challenges for seeing everything nicely in the explosion.

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion

[sonder]

http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?listtype=2%26amp;author=116%26amp;category=0

hi jason, have you tried this one...

I havn't for a while, but yes!

I think the problem is I like to show exploded stuff in Perspective and that creates challenges for seeing everything nicely in the explosion.

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion

Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.

[JasonWD]

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion

Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.

I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!

[pbacot]

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion

Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.

I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!

Yeah that's tough, but now you can use the addlayer plugin for those situations.

[AirWindSolar]

I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!

This. Not sure why they won't give an option to have new layers default to off in all scenes, since 99 times out of 100, I'm creating the layer specifically so I can have something show in only one scene. Would be a lot easier to turn it on in that scene than go through all the others turning it off.

And while we're on dumb behaviors, who had the drug addled idea that "save draft" should be the leftmost and most visible button?

[JasonWD]

I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!

This. Not sure why they won't give an option to have new layers default to off in all scenes, since 99 times out of 100, I'm creating the layer specifically so I can have something show in only one scene. Would be a lot easier to turn it on in that scene than go through all the others turning it off.

When I'm working away in solitude I assume I'm being an idiot and there is a good reason for things being the way they are so just go with the flow and bodge it.

It's nice to know others have the same problems

[malo8x]

Hi All
Sorry if this question has been asked
I am using LO for construction drawings, I have some strip Windows which are at higher level than the doors. Hence the section plane can't cut through those windows and I can't see them on the plan. Does anyone have any tip or any way to solve Thi issue. Thanks

[ccaponigro]

There are a lot of people more skilled than I on here but I think you want to isolate those objects in a scene in sketch up create another section that does cut them and import it and overlay it on top of your other section in layout.

[bmike]

Hi All
Sorry if this question has been asked
I am using LO for construction drawings, I have some strip Windows which are at higher level than the doors. Hence the section plane can't cut through those windows and I can't see them on the plan. Does anyone have any tip or any way to solve Thi issue. Thanks

You can isolate those objects, then cut a section, and place another view / window over your plan to show only those on the plan...

[Drifter928]

This is a set of CD's I drew in Sketchup/Layout

[Drifter928]

I have an example of a set of cd's on my website.

http://www.craigsdraftingservice.com/home.html

Craig

[pbacot]

Excellent Craig! (I looked at your site--there was some problem with the other link).

[Drifter928]

Thanks for the compliment. I put up a pdf download on the link that didn't work.

Craig

[TommyK]

Those are great and detailed construction details Craig. Thanks for sharing.

There's a lot of detail in there that would tax me if I were to make revisions. What plugins do you use to speed up your workflow?

[Drifter928]

Those are great and detailed construction details Craig. Thanks for sharing.

There's a lot of detail in there that would tax me if I were to make revisions. What plugins do you use to speed up your workflow?

Section Cut Face
Dashed Line
1001 Bit
These custom homes go thru a lot of changes so I have gotten very good at editing in Sketchup.

Craig

[fouronethirty]

hellow sketchucation,

sir this is some of the work ive been on utilizing su/lo.

[Lê Việt Trường]

I have some tips you can make your Sketchup's 2D scenes better before send to Layout.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=65513

Video

Hope you like it.

[GigiCray]

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Help.... my layout files often become corrupted with a grey box with a big red x in the middle of the grey box.. these typically are where I had copied and pasted an image. Can anyone tell me why and how to get back to my original file?

[GMthompson]

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Help.... my layout files often become corrupted with a grey box with a big red x in the middle of the grey box.. these typically are where I had copied and pasted an image. Can anyone tell me why and how to get back to my original file?

file
document setup
references
then relink the jpg
is it a exploded skp?

[ccaponigro]

So I thought I would share a little of my quest to work without CADD. One big thing for me was having to give up automated Door and Window Schedules and Room Finish Schedules fed by objects in the model with attributes assigned.

So The Door and Window schedules are created by just isolating the objects and then numbering them sequentially with the help of the outliner. And then run the report generator save the cvs file and import to layout. In layout the label tool reads the instance number so the plan reads out the correct number and it is linked to the model. The reason the door labels are on the door knobs is because you don't have a problem selecting the door instead of the section cut.

The Room Finish Schedule is generated by Isolating a set of components. One for each room that is painted with a material called "AREA" I just copy the component with the attributes and make unique and then edit the face size. You can paint the hidden side so it does not interfere with your floor color because the formula only picks up the area of the "area" material.

Also all the dashed lines are directly in the model on the 2d layer and are created quickly using Profile Builder 2.

I know it's rudimentary but it's pure Sketchup and layout and it is all linked to the model. And I know most architect types will be looking for symbols around the Door and Window numbers. You could just scrapbook some in. I decided I like just the bold font. I'm very lazy.

Love to hear some feedback Thanks!

[2liv]

Hi,
Looking for scrapbook templates:
drafting symbols
electrical symbols
Could someone help me find them ?
thank you

[pbacot]

Hi,
Looking for scrapbook templates:
drafting symbols
electrical symbols
Could someone help me find them ?
thank you

a search of Sketchucation gives this first result. You might find other things in the search too.

[UPDATED] My LayOut Scrapbook for Architectural Drawings.

https://sketchucation.com/forums/viewto ... 40&t=49829

[Flexan]

Thanks! It's really useful information.

[Richard]

Technical images for a manual.

I rarely have ever been asked to prepare technical style drawings for clients (they know I avoid them). These are for a technical manual for the use of their panelised building system.

Wall section exported from Layout:

SIPFORM-TECHNICAL-MANUAL-HANDLING-SAFETY-TOOLS-WALLS-DRAFT.jpg

Another typical page of artwork exported from sketchup and rendered with maxwell:

SIPFORM-TECH-SUPER-DRAFT-BOTH.jpg

[fionmacool]

Following on from SketchUp's Section Tools improvements, I've released a follow on to my previous book on this subject. Construction Documentation Using SketchUp Pro 2020 is light years ahead of it's predecessor released in 2012.

https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/227-sketchup-for-construction-documentation-2018

The book contains a course based around a building project that I designed and project managed years ago. I chose this project as it's the right balance of simple/ complex- You spend the least amount of time getting the maximum experience.

I've been writing this book on and off for 2 years, preparing the concept and polishing the models to make them user friendly. Each of the 120 or so pages is carefully put together to make the steps easy to follow.

I'm going to be doing a few videos from it shortly. I'm still working on the website to place some cool resources on it. The idea for the website is to focus on construction documentation and BIM.

In the meantime, here's a short extract from the book for you to download- My 5 killer shortcuts. Hopefully it will download OK.
https://viewsion.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/5_Killer_Shortcuts-for_SketchUp_Pro.pdf

[juju]

Following on from SketchUp's Section Tools improvements, I've released a follow on to my previous book on this subject. Construction Documentation Using SketchUp Pro 2020 is light years ahead of it's predecessor released in 2012.

https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/227-sketchup-for-construction-documentation-2018

The book contains a course based around a building project that I designed and project managed years ago. I chose this project as it's the right balance of simple/ complex- You spend the least amount of time getting the maximum experience.

I've been writing this book on and off for 2 years, preparing the concept and polishing the models to make them user friendly. Each of the 120 or so pages is carefully put together to make the steps easy to follow.

I'm going to be doing a few videos from it shortly. I'm still working on the website to place some cool resources on it. The idea for the website is to focus on construction documentation and BIM.

In the meantime, here's a short extract from the book for you to download- My 5 killer shortcuts. Hopefully it will download OK.
https://viewsion.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/5_Killer_Shortcuts-for_SketchUp_Pro.pdf

Has SketchUp Pro 2020 been released? Did you have early access to SUP2020?

[pbacot]

Maybe 2020 refers to the version of the BOOK not the SW.