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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby juju » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:03 pm

Sonder wrote:In case anyone is interested, Trimble came to my office and did an in depth series that will be highlighted in much more detail in the upcoming book I'm co-authoring with Matt Donley.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... codO8aATrh

excellent! Thanks for the video link...

now stop wasting time on the internet and finish the book already, take my money dammit!
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby JasonWD » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:46 pm

ashscott wrote:
but I use my model and then either pull it apart and save scenes

Yeah, I was hoping to avoid this :?


I would be super interested to know if you find a solution to this...

I have always been in a position that I need to get drawings out so fast that I just do it the manual way!

Normally my furniture drawings have a Furniture_exploded.skp file next to them that I pull all the elements of the model out (for instance) 500mm to get the right look.

JDUL-D005A Cashdesk.pdf


Also this kind of thing (can't find the layout file it is attached to). Odd that it has notes in SU for me!
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby driven » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:40 pm

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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby JasonWD » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:03 pm



I havn't for a while, but yes!

I think the problem is I like to show exploded stuff in Perspective and that creates challenges for seeing everything nicely in the explosion.

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Sonder » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:10 pm

JasonWD wrote:


I havn't for a while, but yes!

I think the problem is I like to show exploded stuff in Perspective and that creates challenges for seeing everything nicely in the explosion.

The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion


Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby JasonWD » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:51 pm

Sonder wrote:
JasonWD wrote:The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion


Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.


I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby pbacot » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:37 am

JasonWD wrote:
Sonder wrote:
JasonWD wrote:The most annoying thing is that it interrupts my workflow because it makes you have another copy of the SU geometry in a separate file just for the explosion


Rather than creating a separate file, why not just copy and create a separate group for the expoded view and set that on its own layer; then create the "exploded scene". That way, if each element is a component, you only have to modify once, in a single file.


I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!


Yeah that's tough, but now you can use the addlayer plugin for those situations.
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby AirWindSolar » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:50 pm

JasonWD wrote:I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!


This. Not sure why they won't give an option to have new layers default to off in all scenes, since 99 times out of 100, I'm creating the layer specifically so I can have something show in only one scene. Would be a lot easier to turn it on in that scene than go through all the others turning it off.

And while we're on dumb behaviors, who had the drug addled idea that "save draft" should be the leftmost and most visible button?
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby JasonWD » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:03 pm

AirWindSolar wrote:
JasonWD wrote:I think this came about because there were so many LayOut critical scenes in the SU file that if I created a new layer I would have to Update all the scenes with that new layer off. That's my excuse anyway!


This. Not sure why they won't give an option to have new layers default to off in all scenes, since 99 times out of 100, I'm creating the layer specifically so I can have something show in only one scene. Would be a lot easier to turn it on in that scene than go through all the others turning it off.


When I'm working away in solitude I assume I'm being an idiot and there is a good reason for things being the way they are so just go with the flow and bodge it.

It's nice to know others have the same problems :)
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby malo8x » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:57 am

Hi All
Sorry if this question has been asked
I am using LO for construction drawings, I have some strip Windows which are at higher level than the doors. Hence the section plane can't cut through those windows and I can't see them on the plan. Does anyone have any tip or any way to solve Thi issue. Thanks
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby ccaponigro » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:17 am

There are a lot of people more skilled than I on here but I think you want to isolate those objects in a scene in sketch up create another section that does cut them and import it and overlay it on top of your other section in layout.
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby bmike » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:01 pm

malo8x wrote:Hi All
Sorry if this question has been asked
I am using LO for construction drawings, I have some strip Windows which are at higher level than the doors. Hence the section plane can't cut through those windows and I can't see them on the plan. Does anyone have any tip or any way to solve Thi issue. Thanks


You can isolate those objects, then cut a section, and place another view / window over your plan to show only those on the plan...
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Drifter928 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:30 pm

This is a set of CD's I drew in Sketchup/Layout
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Drifter928 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:43 pm

I have an example of a set of cd's on my website.

http://www.craigsdraftingservice.com/home.html

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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby pbacot » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:51 pm

Excellent Craig! (I looked at your site--there was some problem with the other link).
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Drifter928 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:50 pm

Thanks for the compliment. I put up a pdf download on the link that didn't work.

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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby TommyK » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:29 pm

Those are great and detailed construction details Craig. Thanks for sharing.

There's a lot of detail in there that would tax me if I were to make revisions. What plugins do you use to speed up your workflow?
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Drifter928 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:05 pm

TommyK wrote:Those are great and detailed construction details Craig. Thanks for sharing.

There's a lot of detail in there that would tax me if I were to make revisions. What plugins do you use to speed up your workflow?

Section Cut Face
Dashed Line
1001 Bit
These custom homes go thru a lot of changes so I have gotten very good at editing in Sketchup.

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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby fouronethirty » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:37 pm

hellow sketchucation,

sir this is some of the work ive been on utilizing su/lo.
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby Lê Việt Trường » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:41 am

I have some tips you can make your Sketchup's 2D scenes better before send to Layout.
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Hope you like it.
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Postby GigiCray » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:17 pm

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Help.... my layout files often become corrupted with a grey box with a big red x in the middle of the grey box.. these typically are where I had copied and pasted an image. Can anyone tell me why and how to get back to my original file?
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Re: box with an x

Postby GMthompson » Fri May 12, 2017 7:31 pm

GigiCray wrote:
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Help.... my layout files often become corrupted with a grey box with a big red x in the middle of the grey box.. these typically are where I had copied and pasted an image. Can anyone tell me why and how to get back to my original file?


file
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then relink the jpg
is it a exploded skp?
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Re: Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

Postby ccaponigro » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:53 pm

So I thought I would share a little of my quest to work without CADD. One big thing for me was having to give up automated Door and Window Schedules and Room Finish Schedules fed by objects in the model with attributes assigned.

So The Door and Window schedules are created by just isolating the objects and then numbering them sequentially with the help of the outliner. And then run the report generator save the cvs file and import to layout. In layout the label tool reads the instance number so the plan reads out the correct number and it is linked to the model. The reason the door labels are on the door knobs is because you don't have a problem selecting the door instead of the section cut.

The Room Finish Schedule is generated by Isolating a set of components. One for each room that is painted with a material called "AREA" I just copy the component with the attributes and make unique and then edit the face size. You can paint the hidden side so it does not interfere with your floor color because the formula only picks up the area of the "area" material.

Also all the dashed lines are directly in the model on the 2d layer and are created quickly using Profile Builder 2.

I know it's rudimentary but it's pure Sketchup and layout and it is all linked to the model. And I know most architect types will be looking for symbols around the Door and Window numbers. You could just scrapbook some in. I decided I like just the bold font. I'm very lazy.

Love to hear some feedback Thanks!
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