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Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:57 pm

In Layout, is there any possible way to adjust the tab stop spacing after a bullet/number in a list? That half-inch space is taking up valuable drawing real-estate and is driving me nuts. My cumbersome workaround is to have one text-box for numbers and a separate text-box for the notes.

In the past, I have also experimented with creating my notes in open office, saving as .rtf, and then inserting into layout, and I lose the formatting I set up in the .rtf file anyway.

Thanks for any help.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Dave R » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:17 pm

How are you creating the list? If you make it as an RTF file in a word processor, you can control the formatting or you could make a table with the bullets in one column and the text in the next column.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:53 pm

My spacing issue is using a regular bounded text box, and formatting using the list tab under text style. Inserting a properly formatted rtf file is losing the formatting in the insertion.

I haven't played with the table function much. Maybe that's the answer, if I can hide the grid lines and resize the cells.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:55 pm

And maybe my rtf file issue is really an openoffice issue. The formatting for numbered lists is frustrating there as well.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Dave R » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:41 pm

Maybe it is an Open Office thing. I use LibreOffice and regularly make lists with tab separated columns. No problem with formatting.

It might be that you'd have better luck if you insert your bullet glyph as a character instead of using the Bullets tool.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:03 pm

It's actually numbers that I am having the space issue with. I have just noticed that bullets have the same issue.

I appreciate your help. I'll keep playing with it and maybe check out LibreOffice to see if I can make that a part of my process.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:43 pm

Just an update: I tried the rtf import from LibreOffice, and it works much better. Thanks!
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Dave R » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:29 am

Excellent!
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Richard » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:03 am

I find it SO MUCH easier to just build lists in LayOut using an array of Text Boxes!

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Re: Layout Lists

Postby brettsichellodesign » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:02 am

Great drawing Richard! How did you do the drop shadows on trees and arrows?
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Richard » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:59 am

Thanks mate, to add the shadows I dragged the PDF from LayOut into Indesign!
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Dave R » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:04 am

Richard, I really like that look. Excellent job.

I don't know InDesign very well. How hard is it to create those shadows from the PDF?
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Postby Richard » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:45 am

Dave R wrote:Richard, I really like that look. Excellent job.

I don't know InDesign very well. How hard is it to create those shadows from the PDF?


Dave, so simple!!!! Indesign is really intuitive.

Export PDF from layout with layers enabled > in Indesign drag the PDF onto a page the same size as the original > turned off all tree layers for the flat background > copy the PDF > paste in place > turned off all the background layers > turn on tree level 1 > add drop shadow > copy PDF > paste in place > turn off tree level 1 > turn on tree level 2 > repeat from level 3. > Export PDF.

If I make any changes to the Layout plan, I just re-export the base PDF and refresh the link in Indesign.
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Dave R » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:04 am

Very interesting. Thanks for the explanation. Are the circles created in LO or in SU?
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby CMS 5PS » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:42 am

Beautiful drawing, Richard. I hope to be able to get to that point someday!
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby Richard » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:31 pm

Dave R wrote:Very interesting. Thanks for the explanation. Are the circles created in LO or in SU?


Everything is from LO other than the shadows Dave!
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Re: Layout Lists

Postby bmike » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:45 pm

That looks great...

Couldn't you create the drop shadows in LO? Copy all the arrows to the side, shift them all, then force them behind the arrows, shade in a transparent color? Or use layers?

I know that they aren't as pretty and fuzzy, but with layers its pretty easy.

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