controlling line types in SketchUp

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controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby guyrob175 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:06 am

A quick question for those who have the ability to make plug ins.

I teach young students Sketch Up as part of my Materials Design course and have used a plugin called Build Projection to produce plans and elevations of the models they design. This is a quick way of introducing orthogonal drawing concepts without the need for layout at this time and allowing them to use the dimension tool on 2D drawings to use in the workshop. I have used layout with older kids as the next logical step.

My request is that a plug-in be made which will convert the standard line type (or draw in new lines) which will look like the conventional hidden detail and centre line style standard in orthogonal drawings. This will impress upon them the need for standard line types used in CAD programs such as AutoCAD etc and traditional engineered drawings.
At the moment, I am either using hidden geometry lines or construction lines to try to differentiate them from visible edges

I have seen a line colour plug in, however I have not got this to work with my SketchUp version. If this can be done, could this be modified to reflect line style.

If this plug in already exists could you please point me in the right direction.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby pilou » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:52 am

Color Edges by CPlassais ?
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby guyrob175 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:51 pm

pilou wrote:Color Edges by CPlassais ?


Yes, I believe this was the plug in that prompted me to think that different line types might be possible.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby juju » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:03 am

TIG has a 2D Tools plugin that may be of interest to you, see the line style option, also does some other things that may interest you.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby ntxdave » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:38 pm

juju wrote:TIG has a 2D Tools plugin that may be of interest to you, see the line style option, also does some other things that may interest you.

I use this one a lot also. In addition to the line types, as @juju says, you can also add text and other things.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby utiler » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:02 am

Be good to see what you output you're getting, ntxdave. Would you mind posting a screenshot of how it comes out in Layout?
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby JQL » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:39 am

Beware that linestyles in Sketchup isn't available.

If you transform an edge or curve into a 2D tool's dashed line, for instance, it will plot nicelly but it will become a group with several faces that look like dashes instead of an edge. You'll never be able to export it as a line.

Tig can do wonders and circumvent many Sketchup limitations with his plugins, but he cannot force sketchup to suddenly have linestyles assigned to edges.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby ntxdave » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:45 pm

First of all, let me say I may have misspoke a little said something in a way that is misunderstood. Yes, @JQL is correct, you cannot use the alternate line styles as edges. However, there are many ways that you can use the alternate line style and the text objects very effectively. You ask about how they look in LayOut - be aware that the 2D Tools is a SketchUp plugin but I will show you what the lines look like when you send the model to LayOut.

My most common use is the text as I can place it in my model and then orbit it without having to worry about where the text is going to show up. This first image is an example that I user very often (the lines were not drawn with TIG's 2D Tools, they are just normal lines). I find I have much better control over the this text tool as opposed to the 3D Text Tool in SketchUp (at least for they way I want the text to look in LayOut).
Layout 2D Tool - 1.PNG


Here is a 2nd image that shows some of the line styles that can be used. Yes, I went in and added some lines just for showing what can be done. I even went into the model and edited an edge (corner of wall). I also changed the color of some of the lines to show that effect as well.
Layout 2D Tool - 2.PNG

In the case of lines, you can draw with TIG's tool or you can draw with the normal line tool and then go edit the line style (which I did in most of these cases).

Hope this helps illustrate/explain what can be done.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby utiler » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:51 am

Thanks Dave, it appears you're viewing in raster mode?
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby utiler » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:51 am

JQL wrote:Beware that linestyles in Sketchup isn't available.

If you transform an edge or curve into a 2D tool's dashed line, for instance, it will plot nicelly but it will become a group with several faces that look like dashes instead of an edge. You'll never be able to export it as a line.

Tig can do wonders and circumvent many Sketchup limitations with his plugins, but he cannot force sketchup to suddenly have linestyles assigned to edges.



Agreed, JQL. SketchUp really needs custom linetypes. Fullstop!!
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby Dave R » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:58 pm

This was explained to me years ago by a SketchUp team member. Different line types weren't possible because of the way the identification of lines was handled in the software. Since they have implemented PIDs with SU2017, perhaps that'll be possible in a future version.
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Re: controlling line types in SketchUp

Postby JQL » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:31 am

utiler wrote:Agreed, JQL. SketchUp really needs custom linetypes. Fullstop!!


That carry on into LO and DWG exports...
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